RE: Is there freewill?
September 15, 2014 at 10:33 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2014 at 10:34 pm by Lemonvariable72.)
(September 15, 2014 at 9:26 pm)Drich Wrote:That would mean that we are not truly responsible for our, but rather the creator that set the universe in motion is as he would be the only being with free will or free agency as our hairy little hiker likes to call it.(September 15, 2014 at 1:13 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: What what will would happen to the christian religion of there is not? As it is right now the only reason to think there could be freewill is because of the heinzberg uncertainty principle which states that you cannot know where the electron is. This principle was postulated in the 1920s, and has yet to be proven wrong. How ever there is good reason to think it may be wrong, and simply a limitation of our knowledge and technology. If that is the case that mean that according to classical everything has been set in motion since the big bang. In other words no freewill.
Indeed, the heinzberg blue ice principle of 2013 and the bible both say we are slaves to sin, therefore no 'free will.'
(September 15, 2014 at 3:59 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No, only free agency. What Christians mean by free will is actually free agency. It's laziness with words.
Are hobbits good at dodging because they're small or is that just you?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.