RE: Is there freewill?
September 16, 2014 at 7:53 am
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2014 at 8:02 am by Drich.)
(September 16, 2014 at 12:12 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: How does offering atonement absolve of his responsibility of being the ultimate creator of sin as well as the only agent involved that possesses free will? For indeed of he is a free agent and all powerful while we are acting in accordance to how things have been set motion since the beginning of time, that makes gods offering of atonement a cruel and shallow gesture because he has know since he created which of us would accept and which would not. So he made us disbelieving, knowing that we be disbelievers, and in greater context ultimately unable to change weather end up as believers or nonbelievers. Yet he punishes us while absolving himself of all blame. Fuck sakes even I could be a better god then that.Man was created free with a will of his own as represented by the choice given in the garden. This freedom was traded for slavery to sin in exchange for knoweledge of it.
In turn as a means to save man from our elected slavery God offers a way to break the chains.
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(September 16, 2014 at 12:18 am)Rhythm Wrote:(September 15, 2014 at 11:17 pm)Drich Wrote: If you wish to remain separated form God no. Your sin will eternally separate you from God.Promises promises....lol. You're omitting something here though, I fear........
Quote:There is only obligation if you want to be with God for eternity.Good to know that I'm in the clear for whatever fucking atrocity I may lose my mind and decide to commit - according to your god. Ever occur to you that your description of god makes him out to be a moral midget with less sense than you or I? You and I don't handle moral accountability between each other (or our fellow human beings) this way, do we? Why not, do you suppose....and do you think that we should?
It's all a matter of perspective. You view morality as the cornerstone of right and wrong. The problem with that philosophy is that your understanding of morality changes to fit the current generation's thoughts of right and wrong. Which means your morality ceases to be a corner stone for anything, and becomes a thermometer of pop culture. To judge anything or anyone with your trivial standard/ pop culture is only a testament to one's own self righteousness.
That would be like someone from the 60's looking from someone today and saying they dress funny.. Again by who's standards? The pop culture standard of the 60's? What if we are no longer bound by the pop standard of that time? Then of course that judgement is deemed null and void.
So to is any judgement of morality against God based on our current pop culture beliefs of right and wrong.
