All you guys talk about getting the permission of the deceased to dig their bones but I want to clarify. Were talking about fossils. How do you prove who is the actual descendant of ancient hominid fossils. Now since we are talking about fossils in a indian burial ground is logical to assume that the (descendants of those bones as well) the final decision relies upon the council or functional government of the tribe that owns the place. But what if they refuse? Because that means maybe hypothetically speaking we are letting the answers of evolution escape because religious motives?
The disciples asked the master: Master what do you want us to do with your corpse when you die.
Master: leave it out door for all I care.
Disciples: But master if we do that you'll have a bunch and animals and insect pocking your body and feeding them of it.
Master: Then leave me a stick so I can defend myself.
Disciples: But master you won't be able to use that because you'll be dead.
Master: then why should I care what happen to my corpse?
I already said that I don't care about that kind of stuff. Nor to my own body when I die for that matters. It's just lifeless bones. I see them as a scientifically evidence and nothing more.
(September 21, 2014 at 9:16 am)Stimbo Wrote: I'm wondering at what point desecration becomes archaeology. Clearly not while there are living and possibly grieving relatives, but presumably there is some kind of overlap since in this scenario there's no issue with excavating the dinosaur bones.Again this isn't archeology, but paleontology. Unless paleontology has the same set of rules that archeology…but I'm not sure. I don't think so, I may be wrong but who knows.
(September 21, 2014 at 12:29 pm)ShaMan Wrote: If there were a goldmine (scientific or otherwise) beneath the graves of your family and ancestors, would you be ok with their remains being sifted through in the name of progress?I wouldn't mind, at all. I read a story a long time ago.
The disciples asked the master: Master what do you want us to do with your corpse when you die.
Master: leave it out door for all I care.
Disciples: But master if we do that you'll have a bunch and animals and insect pocking your body and feeding them of it.
Master: Then leave me a stick so I can defend myself.
Disciples: But master you won't be able to use that because you'll be dead.
Master: then why should I care what happen to my corpse?
I already said that I don't care about that kind of stuff. Nor to my own body when I die for that matters. It's just lifeless bones. I see them as a scientifically evidence and nothing more.
(September 21, 2014 at 12:29 pm)ShaMan Wrote: In my opinion, it's less of a cultural position and more so a personal one.Yeah but thats my point(do you mind if I put it in black). Why should we let a personal religious choice about human remains stand in the way of scientific discoveries?
(September 21, 2014 at 12:35 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I am stunned that someone was watching Dr Quinn medicine woman.WHY? IS THERE A PROBLEM?!!
(September 21, 2014 at 7:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote:And that's why we love you Mini. Never change.Quote:Dr Quinn says that this is a point were the cost of science is to high.
Disagree. Truth is, I don't have much patience for this whole "those-bones-belonged-to-my-great-great-great-great-grandfather" shit.
(September 21, 2014 at 7:42 pm)Chad32 Wrote: There have been worse things done in the name of science than digging in graveyards. Like experimenting on live subjects.That's when I draw the line. People can do whatever they want with inanimate object but when it's about live creatures that deserves thinking.