Thunderf00t vs. Feminism

[MJ the Skeptical]

This is a stupid position to take; you wouldn't blame any other group for focusing on one thing, after all. You're not dismissing cancer researchers because they aren't dealing with HIV. Sometimes, interest groups specialize. It's kinda what makes human culture so strong.

You've been misrepresenting what I'm saying, that's probably why you didn't respond to my last reply, because I clarified things. Look, I don't care if they only want focus to on women, that's their business to be a misandrist group that masquerades for gender equality while doing nothing when men are oppressed. That's fine, it's their right, but, they can't pretend that they are for equality of the genders or gender egalitarian then when they don't help men and claims that men are not oppressed or shift the blame to men somehow by getting rid of gender roles when you don't need feminism for that. No feminist seems to want to answer why they don't seem to care about women in oppressed nations. Where are the campaigns for women in the middle east...

Moreover, one could easily argue that the gender equality that moderate feminism fights for also redresses inequality toward men via removing all manner of harmful thinking regarding gender roles.

Here we go again, the superfluous ideology of feminism trying to take credit for Egalitarianism again. Why do you need feminism when there's Egalitarianism, no feminist or MRA has been able to answer that yet. Strange...

As to your other questions, that's kind of mystifying; I've seen plenty of coverage of transgender issues in the feminist media I frequent, and I don't think anyone is advocating for gender-based oppression of either men or women here. Seems like you're kinda spinning issues out of wholecloth to be mad at here.

It's just men that they don't care about eh? Feminism is gender egalitarian, except when men are oppressed, fuck men, right? lol, gender equality may be what they want but their motives are extremely skewed and like I said before, superfluous. So you've found plenty of nebulous coverage that feminists will defend transgendered people, even if that was true, so what, that doesn't change the fact that feminism is gender inclusive (like the MRA) and not actually for equality when it comes down to helping the men when they are oppressed, they are mysteriously absent or blame men somehow.

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Idiocy directed her way? maybe she's doing the directing...


But it's not gender egalitarian, it's gender inclusive. An MRA member could say the same you are, but both ideologies are gender inclusive.

And where are these feminists marching for men who are oppressed? or transgendered people? or women who are actually oppressed in actual patriarchies. Gender equality my ass.

Now, step back and go and see what they've been saying about her and what she actually said.

Until you do so we're done in our discussion.

I'm sure she can make a valid point or two, but, I don't care to watch Rebecca Watson complain about her 1st world bullshit or to claim being hit on on an Elevator is just like rape. And almost everything I've seen from her is fallacious and offensive nonsense. I mean, she thinks that intellectual men who believe that feminism is distasteful is worse than a rape threat. Fuck her, if she had any intellectual integrity she would address them in debate (or just with civility) not go for character assassination.