RE: Refuting misconceptions:3-Authenticity and preservation of the Quran
June 28, 2010 at 7:22 am
Quote:Both of these assertions are nonsense.i didnt say this i said that god says in the Quran it will be preserved by him(thats not my argument) the people who lived during the Quran being changed would never stayed muslims
The Quran will be preserved because says the Quran will be preserved...circular argument, stop using them because it makes you look like a blind fool.
Quote:The changes made to a religious text are often not perceived by the masses, or supported by their shepherds so they accept it. The Bible has been extensively modified over its first 2 centuries of existence, some texts have been thrown in, some texts have been cut out, many texts have been changed. Even a few years ago, when the Church had a debate between keeping the Mass in Latin or having it in the country's language, there was a lot of divisions between the communities, but very few actually left the Church. There is no reason why the Quran would be any different.that didnt happen in the Quran as the people was never different in the main beliefs and there was thousands memorizing the Quran(as i mentioned how much people memorized it) and over all that is was written in the time of muhammed(pbuh) not after 60 or 80 years
Quote:Even if their objection would have been to the Quran being changed, most were not even aware of these changes, i mean 1400 years ago very few people could even READ !there was a lot who can read and write and if there was any changing in a scripture you will find a massive objections and later you will find massive killing of people who have the original scriptures and to those who are objecting but after all that you will always find different scriptures discovered later as the case in the bible
Quote:Even if they did know the Quran by heart, you cannot claim that they transmitted it through the 1400 last years without any alteration made, by word of mouth. The paper support had to be there. And as such, if the written book is altered, then the word transmitted through the generations is altered as well.i mentioned 6 persons who was delegated to write the Quran and there was others who was responsible for writing the Quran+people was writing it for themselves+a lot of people memorizing it in the time of its revelation and during the prayers which is 5 times a day a lot others memorizing it also
Quote:Wrong, follow the link provided, that is just an assertion you make without evidencewhat link?? anyway am not an expertise in history in certain situations i just read what non muslims who are attacking islam write and if they didnt refuse a situation i assume its credability
Quote:Witnesses are irrelevant because they are not objective witnesses, they were all followers and as such cannot be trusted as proof that their master was doing his job right. And even if there were objective eye witnesses, this does not constitute sufficient evidence for the perfection of the Quran. You will probably ask how its preservation can be certain: as for all books, you need to provide the original. Otherwise, there is no definite evidence of your book's preservation.there was no need for witnesses as all this was done in public but they put them to avoid any claims that can be said later
Quote:This is a very bad argument: the people who altered the Quran had plenty of time to make it look credible.there is another religions that had more time to do that but they failled as it is impossible to decieve masses of people all over the world and you will always end with huge mistakes and contradictions
and at last there was no single reason to change anything in the Quran(in other religions they was different in the main concepts) and it was impossible to do that especially with the arabs(the arabic language is so complicated and also they are great memorizers) for 1400 years no one from the people attacking islam and muslims claimed any change in the Quran untill the last hundred years in other religions you will always find people different about their scripture they cant be unified(even different sects and minorities have no different claims about the Quran)