(December 29, 2008 at 7:50 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: As Dennett says free will is compatible with determinism.Come on, that's not critical thinking, challenge yourself.
(December 29, 2008 at 7:50 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: As I have said this is if the future is not known.Known by who? Do we need to have knowledge about existence of an all-knowing agent first?
(December 29, 2008 at 7:50 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Whether I believe in free will or not I'm still just as free unless I think that means I have to just lie down on the floor because I can't do anything.If your body lies itself on the floor you can do nothing about it.
(December 29, 2008 at 7:50 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: That of course is not what free will means. I am just as free if I don't believe in free will as if I do. The belief doesn't change the reality! People who believe in free will aren't any freer than those who don't.You think you are free, but how do you know it?
(December 29, 2008 at 7:50 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Why would I hope to unite something when my whole point is it makes no real difference in a practical sense either way. We still live in the same world we always have.Yeah as a robot who thinks he has free will.
(December 29, 2008 at 7:50 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I'm interested in whats true. If there's no free will then thats fine by me.Most people, me included, find that very disturbing. Wouldn't you like to know if you are something other than a robot?
(December 29, 2008 at 7:50 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: If there is that's also fine by me. Either way my change in belief in free will - either way - doesn't change my free will whether I have it or not. Right?Sounds like you believing in free will no matter what facts might tell you. That's a belief for sure.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0