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Ed Feser's Aristotelian Proof of the Existence of God
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RE: Ed Feser's Aristotelian Proof of the Existence of God
(October 15, 2014 at 8:00 pm)bennyboy Wrote: My argument with you is...about whether all ideas need to be supported by empirical evidence. In my opinion, many do not, in particular philosophical questions where we not only don't have the means to make empirical observations, but have no reason to think we ever will.

Let's focus on this point alone, because to address everything point by point will make this exchange way too frustrating to read (and to write. I know I tried for several hours):

Turn around this idea for a moment. Lets just say some non-empirical effect is inundating our reality right now, bathing us all in some undetectible energy. If it is not emprically detectible in any way how would this "fact" matter in anyway to anyone or anything?

Another way to make this same point is to ask: what's the difference between a completely fictional idea and "a particular philosophical questions where we not only don't have the means to make empirical observations, but have no reason to think we ever will"?

By eliminating empiricism as a possible methodology, one has de facto eliminated any potential consequence, effect, benefit, harm...anything...for that said philosophical notion too, have they not?
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RE: Ed Feser's Aristotelian Proof of the Existence of God - by HopOnPop - October 16, 2014 at 3:28 am

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