What's your opinion of sharking?

[Zidneya]

Darkstar

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Obviously lawmakers would be the only ones who could decide that

Yeah because Lawmakers are the perfect example of moral judgment.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/l...signs.html

and rational thinking:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyath...t-the-irs/

Besides what? just because a lawmaker promulgates a law will that stop people from object(with rational arguments)? Or that it will make it good. You have any idea how many unfair laws are in the world.

If the "prank" also happens to be a crime, then it is by definition criminal activity.

Okay I gotta ask when did I said that this pranks weren't criminal activities? Pranks can be performed in by commenting vandalism and defamation as well. Does that stop them from being pranks? Does that stop them from being criminal activities?

They don't send minors to adult prison, do they?

Have you ever been to a juvie? Same hell only that those who make it a living hell are minors.

It is difficult for me to understand them because I was never anything close to that

It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues. Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)

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But, later forgiving someone for doing something isn't synonymous for letting them get off scot-free.

And also I've explained my points stamens and posture very clear so I'll appreciate no further misunderstandings.

BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE JUST BECAUSE I'M WILLING TO BE INDULGENT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M WILLING TO THIS ASSAULTS GO UNPUNISHED.

INDULGENCE ISN’T ALL FORGIVING!! What! Do I need to star selling T-shirts for you to get it!

I swear I hear one more freaking time anyone else accusing me of saying that I'm willing to let this crimes go unforgiving and I will leave this thread. Because how can I believe that even after 8 freaking pages people still can't get that that's not my posture at all!!
Okay when did I said that I was willing to letting them get off scot-free.

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People who try to save the world without understanding it what they are really trying to save is their own ego.

I don't even know what that means...

I means. How can you decide what's good or bad for other people if you don't take five seconds to understand other people. What you think that everyone else thinks like you? Or that they should think like you? When you claim your moral judgments are coronet but at the same time you don't even take an effort to understand other people I have to ask. What you are saying is the right thing for the world or to yourself?

I could try to guess, that not having been a prick myself it's harder for me to act like "boys will be boys".

Some of the most horrible things in the world happened at the hands of boys but that doesn't take out the fact that they are still boys.(now you see why I posted this on the Philosophy section)

Did I ever actually suggest what be done with them? How can you accurately judge how much compassion I do or do not feel?

By you inability to try to understand them. I get that you never made a prank but apparently that has become a excuse for you.
If you look at your previous statement you'll see the following.

I was a good boy therefor I don't understand them and therefor I will cease any effort or attempt in trying to understand them.
I gotta ask you never felt the imp use or desire to break the rules? To do something even after knowing that everyone else would judge you badly for that? To have some fun and no worrying about the consequences? Most of the people who commit pranks have thought this. And I have a hard time in believing that you never experienced any of this.

I could accuse you of not feeling compassion for the real victims here, but I won't.

I feel as much compassion for the victims as anyone. But I don't let this cloud the fact that the perpetrators are still teens (and therefor they deserve compassion as well).

Well, yeah, I'm sure it does. I was just wondering if sociopathic behavior is common, and my clean track record is actually abnormal.

In high school they put a mirror on the floor to see underwear, so far none of my classmates turned out to be a rapist. I get that many sociopaths didn't woke up one morning being a total monsters. I get that they committed crime after crime each time increasing the level of cruelty. Therefor I understand why you worry that if you don't stop them they might become a treat. But that depends on the person as well don't you agree. I mean in my high school they put a mirror on the floor to see underwear, so far none of my classmates turned out to be a rapist, nor mysogynist nor sociopath.
Now tell me why do you think this happened? Because no teacher caught them. So tell me what did they did wrong? Why didn't they turned id rapist or sociopaths or criminals?
My original statement reins in this topic. let's be realistic the kind of boy that is apt to turn into a sociopath will do it either by sharking or he simply will fin out something else.

I don't think I ever said that a kid should be sent to adult prison.

Then I must apologize to you. Bu is just that I've heard that stamens again during this thread that I ssumed. I even asked before:

I gotta ask when I say understanding and tolerable does that mean that Im willing to let go ever drug blackout rapist walk free down the street?
It' all the same with you isn't it black or white. Condemned them with all the force of the law or don't condemn them at all isn't it?

And so far many(and I mean many) have claimed that they should be tried as adults, and therefor sent to prison.

I don't even know what the punishment for sexual assault is

It depends on the country, age, circumstances, and identity of both the victim and criminal.

I was simply stating my observations when I noted that the pranks carried out by these kids would be legally classified as sexual assault.

Okay.

I have made mistakes (though not brushes with the law), and I'm definitely not a perfect role model, but... Wait...? "Mistakes show us who we really are" almost sounds like you're suggesting that when people do antisocial things, it's their true colors showing through , showing the world who they really are. But I'm pretty sure that's not what you meant.

Actually thats exactly what I meant.
If a person rapes a teen isn't he showing us our true colors? If a persona ran over a person ant either left or stays to take the responsibility isn't showing us our true colors?
Yhis much I know, when the storm breaks, some are dumb with terror and some spread their wings like eagles and soar.
John Dee 1527-1609

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Thumpalumpacus

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I don'[t hate him. I just think he hasn't thought his position through very well.

WTF, you ignored my point?

Then could you repeat your point again.Thumpalumpacus

Don't just click the reply button and leave the quotes like they are because with so many hidden replies it might get confusing or tedious.

And you ignore my point as well, so who are you to complain.

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okay I'm gonna post my position so there will be no further misunderstanding.
Because I'm sick and tired of them.

• I don't think that a teen who comits sharking will certainly grow up to be a rapist or a sociopath.
  
• We should be indulgent with teen criminals who commit sharking.
  
• We wouldn't tried them as adults(because they aren't adults)
  
• No! I'm not ignoring the feelings of the victims.
  
• No I'm not saying this acts aren't crimes.
  
• No I'm not saying this crimes stop being pranks.
  
• No I'm not saying this crimes should be unnoticed nor unpunished.
  
• I don think that sending this kids to prison will neither solve the problem nor help them at all.
  
• Yes I care for the teen criminals(because they are still human beings and teenagers).
  
• I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IS SO DAMN DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS POINTS?(I'm not asking you to share them people I just wish that someone will take five second to read them and say: Oh so that is what zidneya thinks of sharking)