RE: A few questions
October 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2014 at 4:08 pm by Vivalarevolution.)
Hold on . . . Where did I imply that god did do it?
I was asking that since there is so much order in the universe, couldn't it also be a POSSIBILITY that a higher power made sure the big bang happened in such a way that the universe would work as we know it does now?
Anyway, the other guy wrote
1) the laws conform to the universe - well duh! Laws are obviously human made. A better question on my part would've been why doesn't the whole universe change the way it works as outlined by laws.( for arguments sake)
2)Does speed of light EVER fluctuate (change) in those materials?
3) okay the universe may not be beautiful for you. For me it is though. From the big bang to the present. How 13.7 billion years led to our intelligent lives.
First taking the milky way; a galaxy out of a number of others. The super massive black hole in the beginning, quasar that followed, the formation of the sun in one small corner of the orion arm, the formation of earth, and life upto us now. That is really beautiful for me.
4) energy only changes form, doesn't get created or destroyed
Meaning to say . . . I could easily get answers. I wanted what you guys think of it. By answers I meant posts
Ya know what? I checked my question and your answer a few times now and I see nothing I've written that you've proved wrong. The only places we differ is in the laws part (I already explained what I meant in the reply to genkaus)
And I would never make an attempt at validating my beliefs on an atheist forum. I never mentioned the Christian god. All I was asking was if you agreed there could be a POSSIBILITY that a higher power made sure the big bang happened in such a way that the universe would work as we know it does now.
I was asking that since there is so much order in the universe, couldn't it also be a POSSIBILITY that a higher power made sure the big bang happened in such a way that the universe would work as we know it does now?
Anyway, the other guy wrote
1) the laws conform to the universe - well duh! Laws are obviously human made. A better question on my part would've been why doesn't the whole universe change the way it works as outlined by laws.( for arguments sake)
2)Does speed of light EVER fluctuate (change) in those materials?
3) okay the universe may not be beautiful for you. For me it is though. From the big bang to the present. How 13.7 billion years led to our intelligent lives.
First taking the milky way; a galaxy out of a number of others. The super massive black hole in the beginning, quasar that followed, the formation of the sun in one small corner of the orion arm, the formation of earth, and life upto us now. That is really beautiful for me.
4) energy only changes form, doesn't get created or destroyed
(October 19, 2014 at 3:33 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(October 19, 2014 at 3:16 pm)Vivalarevolution Wrote: I Was asking for opinions not definite answers
No you weren't.
Quote:I'll check out your answers and reply tomorrow
Boru
Meaning to say . . . I could easily get answers. I wanted what you guys think of it. By answers I meant posts
(October 19, 2014 at 3:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:If you don't mind I have a few questions.
Don't mind in the least, but (like Stimbo) I have my suspicions.
Quote:I'm orthodox Christian btw
Nobody's perfect, mate.
Quote:Why is the universe the way it is? Brilliant and beautiful?
This question is nonsensical on the face of it. However the universe is, it is going to be 'the way it is', and 'brilliant and beautiful' is a value judgment.
Quote:Why does it have to be in order?
The universe consists of all quanta and the space between all quanta. Thus, by definition, the universe has to be ordered.
Quote:Why can't it be chaotic?
See above. Without order, the Universe cease to be a universe.
Quote:Why can't the speed of light change?
It can and does, all the time. The speed of light is different in different media. But it you're asking specifically about the speed of light in a vacuum, there are new indications that it may vary slightly.
Quote:Why is gravity between two bodies proportional to product of the masses? Why not anything else?
I think you mean 'gravitation force' or 'gravitational attraction.' Because gravity is a function of mass.
Quote:(Note inversely proportional equation doesn't count).
Why doesn't it count?
Quote:Why can't the laws of thermodynamics be changed?
They can. Thermodynamics doesn't appear to apply (for example) on the quantum level.
Quote:Why are laws the way they are?
Based on this and the wording of your other questions, I suspect you have a misunderstanding of what is meant by 'law' in the scientific sense. A law is simply the expression, usually (but not always) mathematical of some observed behavior of the physical universe.
Quote: why is the energy in the universe constant?
Because the universe is a closed system.
Quote:Why can't it be destroyed or created
Because matter and energy are inextricably linked - each is a variant of the other.
Quote:why is heat transfer done from warm regions to cold regions and not the other way around
Because energy flows from areas of high energy to areas of low energy. The is why cars don't fall uphill.
Quote: In short, why does the universe need to conform to the laws?
I see I was right. The universe doesn't 'conform to laws' - the laws desribe the universe.
Quote:Doesn't the fact that the laws can't be changed or substituted indicate there could be a higher power that set it all in place?
No. We discover laws, we do not impose them. The notion of a higher power is untenable in the sense that the universe works perfectly well without one.
Quote: Hypothetically, the universe could very well be chaotic. But it's not
Hypothetically, no it couldn't.
You seem like a sincere bloke, so I hope you won't take amiss what I'm going to say. Learn a bit about science and how scientists suspect the universe works. You aren't discussing science in this thread - or even philosophy. You're simply spewing out of lot of non-stumpers you think we haven't heard before in an effort to validate your own belief.
Boru
Ya know what? I checked my question and your answer a few times now and I see nothing I've written that you've proved wrong. The only places we differ is in the laws part (I already explained what I meant in the reply to genkaus)
And I would never make an attempt at validating my beliefs on an atheist forum. I never mentioned the Christian god. All I was asking was if you agreed there could be a POSSIBILITY that a higher power made sure the big bang happened in such a way that the universe would work as we know it does now.
