What's your opinion of sharking?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Why do you guys hate ziddy?

I'm serious

I don't hate him.

I think he needs to rethink his stance on this issue, because he's confusing things like pranks and crimes, and mercy and folly, and youthful zest and incipient sociopathy.

I don't hate him. I don't know him. But I don't think ideas like this should get airtime without serious countervailing views. I wouldn't want anyone mistaking my silence on this matter for apathy, and so I won't stay silent when I see such regressive views touted.

Also, I'm terribly unimpressed by anyone who talks shit about another guy's wife online.

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Now tell me what would have happened if you wouldn’t have gotten probation? What if! And let’s be realistic that’s a big what if.
Do you think that if they have tried as an adult what would have happened. Because that’s the topic that I’m discussing with this people. The think it’s okay to tried a teen as an adult. They think that sending kids to prison is the right thing to do to them. But let’s be realistic they don’t care about them at all yet they are claiming morality, but morality without a certain degree of compassion an empathy is empty, I mean it’s not like I telling them to forgive Al quaeda terrorist, I’m just telling them to be more indulgent with abunch of stupid teenagers.

First, I was looking at 18 months in a juvenile detention facility.

Second, what who here cares about is not something I'm an expert on; except to say that I see a lot of people showing empathy for the victims here, and little for the perpetrators, and rightfully so, in my opinion. You can keep on saying all you wish that these are teenaged pranks, but they have repercussions, they are sexual violations, and letting teens get away with this sort of behavior trains them to be callous little pricks who don't have the compassion and empathy you claim to be so concerned about.

Sometimes, buddy, tough love is good love.

And none of that changes the fact that if someone wouldn’t have been more tolerable because of your age your life would have been a lot more different.

Actually, you're wrong. They didn't take pity on me for my age, but because it was my first offense. Secondly, even if they'd thrown the book at my, my record still would have been sealed at 18, meaning I would have left that behind me no matter what.

Thirdly, what really changed my life was my father. The morning I came home from jail, he was getting ready for work, and glowering at me, shooting evil looks all morning but not saying a word.

Finally, I told him, "Dad, I know you want to say something, go ahead."

He stopped, thought for a moment, and looked at me. Slowly, and calmly, he said, "I cannot believe I raised a fucking thief," and then walked out of the room. Those were the last words he said to me for a month.

I will reiterate what I said: Thirdly, what really changed my life was my father.

Where are the parents of these little assholes, and why aren't they answering questions about the behavior of their juvenile children?

I never said it wasn’t I’m discussing the nurture and degree of the crime. An the contet of it along with the circumstances of the perpetrator.

I didn't say you did. I was emphasizing the point to underline my reasoning why I think these kids need something more than kid gloves.

Watch out Thumpalumpacus I just said those exact same words and people got really upset claiming that it is wrong doing that. And if they don’t complain
about you like they did to me. Tell me the secret.

I used the word "maybe", which indicates I might well be wrong; that's an element that seems to be lacking from your points, the idea that you could be wrong. Being willing to consider the thoughts of others is a good way to not only communicate, but learn.

Also, I was speaking in the past-perfect tense, meaning that in that particular case (my own) it might have been the case that that particular judge applied his own sense of mercy -- not that that was the right thing. The readers here were, and are, sharp enough to pick up on that.

Of course not. But let’s be realistic, he lives miles away, and if I ever try to seduce his wife that doesn’t mean she fall for me. It’s just hypothetical situation. Believe I had a friend during my twenties saying that he wanted me to borrow ma(at that time) girlfriend I just told him that; why the hell are you saying me this. Do the traditional way at least behind my back but don’t keep telling me that or I’m gonna punch you.

So much for your sense of empathy, then.

I just don’t have much respect for marriage that’s all.

Nor the people you interact with online, so far as I can see. And still you'd deign to lecture others about how we should try to understand the feelings of others?

Yeah, I'm not buying it. Carry on, as you were.