(October 26, 2014 at 12:19 am)trmof Wrote: Fair enough, I missed that particular part. I would expect this being to send me lots of obvious signs of it's existence which would speak to me personally, and then it would throw lot's of unasked for material providence at me on a regular basis after I confirm that I could hear it and was interested in what it had to say, so as to maintain the relationship. Since I don't know what God looks like or whether he prefers to localize in your basement at present, it's entirely possible they are one and the same.
Now that I've offered my own standard of evidence, which is not going to be swayed by any of your opinions since it's conditions have already been met and surpassed, can we please put a button on this topic and meet again on another thread? I'm getting tired and I have literally nothing to do with my life except compulsively answer these posts.
I could make my invisible purple nothing diametrically opposed to your Christian version in all ways possible, and then there would be nothing to choose between them. There in lies the problem. If there is nothing to choose between them, then they are both equally likely, or unlikely.
I don't of course actually believe in the invisible purple nothing (I'm sure you're relieved) but people do believe and have believed in the past, in a number of gods who do contradict the Christian god on essentially the same evidence as yours, and who is to choose between them?
I can see why you'd wish someone would put a button on this thread. It's because as you've defined god there is not possible evidence for or against him, only how you and others feel. And people feel there is and isn't a variety of gods.
The bulk of those gods could because of their assumed powers, prove their existence, but all decline to do so.
All which is to say that you've defined your god as scientifically unprovable and then asked what proof of him we'd accept.
Failing scientific evidence you say, well the heart is proof. Well, I don't accept feelings as proof of anything because so many people feel so many different things. Mine is the rational position. Yours is one of feeling. If ALL people felt as you do, it would give me pause. But since what people feel about god is largely cultural, it does not.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.