Mathematics and the Universe

[Edwardo Piet]

What I've wondered is how can we absolutely 100% know that there are NOT any universes (or big bangs, dimensions, whatever, etc, etc) out there - that have different kinds of mathetmatics, or some equivalent instead? How can we know absolutely?

Just because we cannot concieve of whatever the hell another kind of mathematics SOMEWHERE else would be like?

These 2 guys said to me when I asked this: We know absolutely because mathetmatics has been proven. But I said: Yes, but that doesn't mean another kind or equivalents has been DISPROVEN does it?

We cannot disprove the FSM, the IPU, Zeus. Yahweh, Russells Teapot etc. So how could we disprove this? And how HAVE we already? Where's the contradiciton? We don't know what another kind of mathmatics etc would be like. The fact we cannot conceive it doesn't mean we 100% absolutely know for certain that there isn't another. Or any more. Does it?

If we proved that one God DOES exist would that disprove all the others? Couldn't there easily be more than one? Even IF we were, hypothetically speaking, incapable of conceiving of any other Gods than that particular one?

There are many supernatural beings that have never been conceived of. The fact that they have never been conceived of yet - does that mean they are disproved unlike the FSM, Zeus, Yahweh, etc?

If I think up the Tangerine Crocodile That Carries a Lantern called Gorwokerz Mupperett and Wears a Cape Identical to Batman's...was he any more disproved before I thought him up? I don't think so.

Hope that wasn't a digression lol. I'm trying to be relevant here if something has not been conceivable or is inconceivable does that mean its 100% absolutely disproved for certain? I don't think so.
evf

Nope, but it's probably just as unlikely as the existance of a god. If there is a universe where you hold up one hand, then other hand, and can only conclude that you are holding up 6 hands... that's just odd. I would say the likelihood of mathematics being different in alternate universes is about the same as the likelihood of the FSM. What's more, we have no proof of the existance of this different mathematics and couldn't understand it if we did. I think it's safe to say mathematics are as close to universal as this debate needs assume.

I agree. Its probably about as unlikely as the FSM. Notice - about. It could be less unlikely. Or more. But I don't think there is really much of a difference in the probability! lol.