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Belief and Knowledge

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RE: Belief and Knowledge

October 31, 2014 at 11:05 am (This post was last modified: October 31, 2014 at 11:06 am by Heywood.)

(October 31, 2014 at 10:58 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Atheists would claim that there's no reason at all to suspect a supernatural reason, as one has never been proven to exist, let alone been proven possible. Saying "we don't know yet" does not give anyone else license to crowbar in "supernatural" as an explanation.

Supernatural is really a meaningless word in my opinion. Anything that exists including God if He exists, is part of nature. However if God exists we should see non local causes for some events. Quantum randomness is one of those things which Bell's theorem tells us cannot be explained by any theory of local hidden variables. Does it prove God? No but is suggest that there is more to reality than what can be observed locally. It suggests there is a hidden reality beyond our observation and ability to explain.

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