RE: Atheism = Desperation
November 1, 2014 at 9:58 am
(This post was last modified: November 1, 2014 at 10:19 am by downbeatplumb.)
(November 1, 2014 at 6:16 am)AtlasS Wrote: [quote='Aoi Magi' pid='787353' dateline='1414834531']
Ok, if it's not a head injury, then it might be too much alcohol or weed.

downbeatplumb
Quote:Observing in science is not about "checking the surroundings of a person deeply".
What does that even mean?
Quote:What I mentioned is the observing which led to the scientific method. The one where you deploy your senses to get acquire data from a primary source.
You mean "noticing things" is a muslim trait. Got ya.
Quote:Laws are a description of what we see not the universe telling things to behave that way. So you have this exactly the wrong way round.
Quote:The big bang, caused star x to form in a certain way that only produces a gravitational pole of "z". We described it as a law, with variables of course.
My point : the maker of the equation & the one who manipulated the variables to yield the universe we see is god.
I say it was an invisible giant pink bunny that did it. I have as much proof for this as you have for allah or whatever he's called today.
Quote:An atheist, such as myself, is not desperate for any sort of god because we do not believe there is any such thing.
With all due respect, you seem to be talking bollocks.
Quote:Don't you wish to have somebody in the sky who listens to your calls and needs & respond to it ? that's a dream to most humans.
No I don't. Please refrain from thinking that what you feel is universal.
Quote:My point : atheists stopped dreaming ; that is desperation. they concluded that god doesn't exist and terminated their dream.
Or, we opened our eyes and saw the truth.
Quote:So you have managed to encapsulate in this one sentence a complete misunderstanding of most modern science. Please read an up to date book on astronomy or physics or biology before commenting. The truth is far more interesting than the crude fantasy you believe in.
Quote:Of course. Believers like me are always ignorant in modern science. Please sir, teach Ali Baba how to read
If you don't want to be treated like a stereotypical Islamic apologist stop acting like one.
We used to have a fine member of staff here who is a muslim who let us see what an enlightened muslim could be like.
You are the opposite.
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That was just an example. I know all about evolution, and how humans only prospered AFTER THE ICE AGE, and that modern biology says humans are evolved through millions of years to adapt to the planet.
So you are an expert on biology and geology well golly gee willickers that's just dandy.
Why then do you come across as though you have never seen a scientific book?
Quote:Muslim scientists are an exception. What we see when we look at Islamic states is land after land hankering after the barbaric dark ages hoping beyond hope that the modern age goes away. Apart from the bits that kill people, they seem to like those.
Quote:You gotta love MSM. To be honest, we didn't enter the dark ages "NOW", actually muslims entered the dark ages when the British & French invasions came up resulting in "Sykes-picot" agreement, you can google that.
Actually they entered the dark ages when fundamentalists took control and tried to undo all the good work done under a more secular regime but I digress. There is a reason why the Islamic dress code is out of the 14th Century.
Quote:I'm not saying muslims are angels, many muslims did bad stuff,
DID BAD STUFF! have you seen ISIS, the Taliban, Saudi Arabia etc etc etc.
Quote:but the dark ages we live at now is not totally caused by ourselves.[/type]
Type that on your dark age computer did ya.
[quote]Tell the american government to stop supporting terrorists & dictators in the region.
Ok coz the American government totally listen to everything I tell them to do.
Quote:I don't think so because I have never seen any evidence for a supernatural being, let alone the specific one you happen to believe in.
I would imagine you were brought up in the faith of islam and so believe that religion.
If you had been born a Mormon you would be praising Joshua Smith
Quote:I'm not your typical "stereotype", and everybody around me knows that I'm off the norm & usually find my own way.
Then stop parroting things we've seen before and think for yourself.
Quote:I think the sun & the moon (and their location from earth) along with our atmosphere, are enough to conclude that god exists.
In this case you are just wrong.
Did you know the moon is moving steadily away from the earth and will eventually leave it?
Quote:No one said the universe was randomly created. The cause is as yet unknown but science is just getting over being held back by religious dogma and needs time to figure things out.
Give it time we'll get there.
Quote:maybe..
Quote:Your whole post stank of desperation.
Quote:Actually I'm pretty happy this morning and not desperate !
Well good, me too.

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