(November 2, 2014 at 1:16 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: Lets take away all of the fluff and feathers for a minute. Let's take away all of the technical babble, all of the rhetoric for just a second.
I can't speak for every religion, but I am a Christian theist. Now what does that imply? Well, that would mean that I believe Jesus Christ died on the cross for the sins of mankind, and that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.
That is basically my belief in a nut shell. Now, if you are an atheist, you may find my beliefs laughable, sickening, stupid, etc....
I'd start with Christianity being unconvincing rubbish myself, but do continue.
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which is fine, Christianity isn't for everyone because after all, Jesus said "But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it." (Matt 7:14).
But as an atheist, here is what you have to believe...you have to believe that billions of years ago before humanity, dead matter was floating around in space...and for whatever reason, suddenly, this dead matter "came to life". Not only did it come to life, but it came to life and began thinking, talking, and having sex.
Well no as an atheist I just have to not believe in god. That's it nothing more.
Quote:Just think about that for a second. This non-living material suddenly CAME TO LIFE.
So you think the theory of abiogenesis posits that life just poofed into existence. You my friend have no read up on it the evidence points towards organic matter turning into cells, there have been experiments and everything and is certainly a more reasonable and satisfying explanation to "magic man dun it" with no explanation as to HOW this was possibly achieved by said powerful sky wizard.
Quote: For the life of me, I just can't get myself to believe that, even if I tried. I just don't understand how naturalism/atheism is a more reasonable position than theism.
Your ignorance is not a valid argument.
Quote:You have to believe that a process that can't think or see, created consciousness. So consciousness came from a process that can't think?
Scientists are working on how abiogenesis may have occurred and have had some positive results so a viable process is emerging that we can study and yes consciousness came from non-consciousness. There is no alternative.
Quote:I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
To be an atheist all that is required is to find theism unconvincing, I also find it laughably stupid, but that is not really needed.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.