(November 2, 2014 at 3:37 pm)Jenny A Wrote: OP,
Let me summarize what you've said and you can tell me where I got it wrong:
Life began either naturally, or supernaturally. There is no middle possibility (Actually there is. A number of theists believe god created life using natural means, but I'm willing to ignore that for the moment).
But it required a supernatural hand, right?
(November 2, 2014 at 2:43 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Because no one has created life in a lab or recorded it forming from inanimate matter, therefore life was created supernaturally.
(November 2, 2014 at 2:43 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I cannot conceive the notion of inanimate naturally coming to life at all.
The formula would be
If A than not B and if B than not A.
But, you have taken a gigantic leap and posited:
If there is no proof of A than B. That is illogical since there is no proof of B either and one could just as well say if no proof of B than A.
But there is evidence for B, but keep in mind that I am not basing it off of just that alone. I am basing it off of at least 6 other arguments that I find to be sound, valid, and therefore persuasive.
So in essence, is it the positive affirmation of those 6 arguments, and the arguments I can give AGAINST abiogenesis which would make one big positive case for Christian theism.
(November 2, 2014 at 2:43 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Let's apply your formula to something that really has no middle ground. I toss a coin here at my desk. It will land either heads up or tails up. But you can't see it. So if you can't prove it's heads, does that mean it's tails?
No, it doesn't mean that it's tails. But remember, law of excluded middle means that if one position is NEGATED, then the other one wins by default. In the heads/tails example, one position is not negated, unlike the case with abiogenesis.
(November 2, 2014 at 2:43 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Or take a real world situation. For centuries humans applied your formula to lightning, i.e. we can't prove how it occurs naturally, therefore god did it. Now we can show how it is caused naturally. Surely you don't believe god did it until we discovered how nature does it.
Well, just because you can naturally explain lightning doesn't mean that God isn't the ultimate origin of lightning, or that God doesn't step into the natural realm and intervene with anything. It is called "God intervening in nature", and biblically speaking, God has intervened with nature throughout history.
Now of course, I can see your point.