Systematically Dismantling Atheism

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Systematically Dismantling Atheism

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RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism

November 3, 2014 at 9:46 am

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: B.Therefore a wide range of sentient life, all with varying degrees of intelligence/attributes existing elsewhere in the universe, including other possible dimensions, is a logical possibility and can not be ruled out

Except, of course, that thought has brains and super beings are human ideals from mythology.

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Systematically Dismantling Atheism - by IDScience - October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm

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