(November 2, 2014 at 1:27 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Asserting randomness misses the boat by ignoring the fact that physics and the previous states the universe was in doesn't allow for anything to happen. It is, in fact, within a set of values; in other words, not random.Now you are well on your way to understanding why the first mover is the necessary to regulate the movement of things from potentiality to actuality. For something to be non-random means that there must be a more fundamental causes. Follow the logic, Esquilax. If you need some help, Feser's "Last Superstition" is a good start for someone just starting to learn about Neo-Scholasticism.
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Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 1, 2014 at 5:12 am
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