(November 3, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote: ...when we speak of the inception of the universe we're talking about an event for which we don't have much of an understanding beyond the fact that it doesn't even necessarily have to behave in ways comprehensible to normal causality...You keep bring up the beginning of the universe and I have already pointed out that it is irrelevant. What does matter is that sensible bodies have dispositional properties, in the here and now, that include certain potentials and exclude others. Their various dispositions contingent on something other than themselves and that contingency is what makes things actualize in the way that they do.
(November 3, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Secondly, you're a specific brand of christian, no? So isn't it a little disingenuous that you keep arguing for deistic creator forces, rather than what you actually believe?Then you do not understand that for which I am arguing (no surprise there). In New Church theology, like orthodox branches of Christianity, believes that God is a creator, but also, the sustainer of everything that exists from moment to moment.
