RE: Atheism = Desperation
November 3, 2014 at 7:14 pm
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2014 at 7:18 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(November 3, 2014 at 6:03 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(November 3, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote: ...when we speak of the inception of the universe we're talking about an event for which we don't have much of an understanding beyond the fact that it doesn't even necessarily have to behave in ways comprehensible to normal causality...You keep bring up the beginning of the universe and I have already pointed out that it is irrelevant.
You're trying to eat your cake and have it, too. If the beginning of the Universe is irrelevant, what is the point of positing a prime mover? And if the prime mover is crucial, then the beginning of the Universe is relevant.
... and you haven't explained why a Universe requires a prime mover, but a prime mover doesn't.