(November 5, 2014 at 6:13 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:You asked for it:(November 5, 2014 at 4:25 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Or a supernatural cause that isn't a god.
So please define a supernatural cause that creates a universe/time from nothing and not fit the definition of "god". What would you call such a being? We call such a being "god". They may call it something different, but the fact of the matter is...it is the same entity being called a different name.
Dave did it!
Dave is a high school kid in a 5+2 dimensional Universe. As part of his class on unstable matter, he mixed protoplasmoidium with an unstable 4+1 dimensional substance he calls paintium. From that, he obtains plasmopaintinium and a few excess materials. A splat of those excess materials generates what we call a 3+1 dimensional universe, like ours!
And then we know what happens in here.
Dave is completely oblivious to the generation of a bunch of universes that his splats just caused... nor do any of his class mates who also create a bunch of other universes.... every bi-year, new batches of students come along and create new universes.
If I can think of this possibility, this hypothesis... just imagine how many more hypothesis there are that can be imagined.
Your god is but an infinitesimal speck in the realm of all possibilities....
(November 5, 2014 at 6:13 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:Of course. It is a possibility.(November 5, 2014 at 4:25 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Or 'I don't know'.
Which would still give rise to the POSSIBILITY of naturalism.
(November 5, 2014 at 6:13 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:Nor santa.(November 5, 2014 at 4:25 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Yet. Science doesn't know everything. What science doesn't know doesn't add a whit to the odds that you're right.
I think Jesus hasn't made his return to earth, "yet".
Nor Harry Potter.
And Han Solo is yet to come for the first time.
(November 5, 2014 at 6:13 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:How so?(November 5, 2014 at 4:25 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: They are not theories. They are hypotheses. Evolution, on the other hand is a scientific theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.
Evolution is a 160 year old LIE.