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Atheism = Desperation
RE: Atheism = Desperation
(November 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm)AtlasS Wrote: An atheist needs a political system based also on pure atheism -like communism-, let us not forget that the communist parties require a person to be atheist/irreligious to carry on the missions of the party.

No, an atheist does NOT need a political system based on pure atheism. How many communists do you think are on this board?

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: So technically, communism is a type of "political atheism". So no, atheism wasn't just a cute belief stalin had once.

Atheism in a opinion on a single topic, it can't be subdivided. Ditto for theism. Islam is not a 'type of theism', Islam is a theistic religion. Communism is not a type of atheism, it is an atheistic ideology.

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Yes, Islamists is better than "Muslims". What is more better is to describe them for whom they really are : "TERRORISTS", or more accurately "isis supporters".

Agreed. May you someday be as nuanced regarding atheists.

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Just like in Mexico. The drug gangs that cause all the misery are not called "Christianists" or "Christian extremists" ; they are called for whom they really are : NARCOS & drug gangsters.
The same should be applied to isis and its supporters, mmmm ?

Yep.

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Like if I was your neighbor ; and saw some "ISIS supporters" attacking your home to kill your brother, and take you as a sex slave.. Do you think I won't defend your family ?

I think much better of you than that.

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: I will actually, because I'm NOT an "ISIS SUPPORTER/TERRORIST".
Do you see how names make us see things straight ?

Yep.

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: The west -especially countries that hit Iraq- are stuck in deep shit because of their war crimes ; death cults have been formed to "seek & kill" any person who contributed to the destruction of Iraq.
One these cults is called "ISIS". Islam has nothing to do with it.

I agree we've largely made our own mess, but Islam can't be completely divorced from it. I don't think the Westboro Baptist Church is representative of Christianity, but I can hardly say Christianity has nothing to do with it.

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Above all, how many Muslims don't want to cut your head ? compared to those who want to ?

All the ones I've met so far don't want to cut off my head, as far as I can tell.

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: And tell your government not to allow third world trash into Australia, instead tell them to build a better immigration system that only allows regular people to come in.

I don't think Australia's immigration problem is that they don't consider enough people to be 'third world trash'.

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: The west has types of Islamists that I swear I never saw before, and you're talking to a guy who actually lived in Saudi Arabia for a while.

Resisting assimilation can take odd forms.

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Smells like your governments need such people, to keep you living in terror for years to come..

Our governments are perfectly capable of keeping most of us terrorized without any actual threats at all.

(November 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Of course, terror is a very good investment in the business of "War on terror", which the west profits from it were in trillions, selling fear is a good industry ya know.

I don't think it's a net plus for our economies.

(November 6, 2014 at 5:45 pm)AtlasS Wrote: If you read what I wrote again, I said communism is a "political branch" that sprung from atheism, so, there gotta be Libertarians atheists, I don't know if they were "many".

Communism didn't spring from atheism. Nothing springs from atheism. Things are added TO atheism. The same is true of theism.
Most American atheists are Democrats, but a higher percentage of Libertarians are atheists than is true of Democrats.

(November 6, 2014 at 5:45 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Just like most of you, blaming islam. Why can't I blame atheism ?

Because atheism is an opinion on one topic. It's comparable to theism (the other opinion on that topic), but not to any specific religion or ideology. It's a category error to compare a specific religion to a general opinion. If we go that route, I could condemn theists for sacrificing babies to Moloch...but you don't feel much connection to that, because you're not a Moloch-worshipper. Similarly, I don't feel much connection to the crimes of Stalin because I'm not a communist. If you want to compare Islam and communism, it would be closer to comparing like things...but you'd have to compare Islam to humanism if you want to compare it to an ideology most of us actually at least sympathize with. Of course, humanism fares pretty well in that comparison, which is why most religionists with an axe to grind keep bringing up communism instead.

(November 6, 2014 at 6:12 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Eventually an atheist MUST obey a doctrine of law, either it's a nationalist constitution or a gang's law. Hippie atheists are a different case ; even these will have to obey society laws -at least their own hippie society-.

Most of us obey the law. Most of everybody does. What's your point?

(November 6, 2014 at 5:45 pm)AtlasS Wrote: It's a void point. Because simply, you will obey a law if you wanted a society. So even atheists obey laws which dictates them to do certain things.

Again, so what?

(November 6, 2014 at 5:45 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Sometimes these laws are driven from communism. Some other times they are derived from capitalism. It depends.

And some other times they are derived from the English common law, as in America, Canada, and Great Britain. Guess where most of the people you're talking to live.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 1, 2014 at 5:12 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Aoi Magi - November 1, 2014 at 5:26 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 1, 2014 at 5:32 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by warlocksarebest - November 6, 2014 at 6:32 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Aoi Magi - November 1, 2014 at 5:35 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 1, 2014 at 6:16 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Chas - November 1, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Aoi Magi - November 1, 2014 at 8:46 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Chas - November 1, 2014 at 8:47 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Cato - November 1, 2014 at 8:56 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by downbeatplumb - November 1, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 2, 2014 at 5:04 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 2, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 1, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by polar bear - November 1, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: Atheists = Desperation - by downbeatplumb - November 1, 2014 at 5:35 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by jesus_wept - November 1, 2014 at 5:38 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Aoi Magi - November 1, 2014 at 5:40 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Forsaken - November 1, 2014 at 5:42 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by miniboes - November 1, 2014 at 6:38 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 1, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Faith No More - November 3, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by robvalue - November 1, 2014 at 6:39 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by dyresand - November 1, 2014 at 9:13 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Anomalocaris - November 1, 2014 at 9:26 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Cyberman - November 1, 2014 at 9:43 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by abaris - November 1, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by robvalue - November 1, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Endo - November 1, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Cyberman - November 1, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Well Rounded Rectangle - November 1, 2014 at 10:57 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Aoi Magi - November 1, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by miniboes - November 1, 2014 at 12:25 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by paulpablo - November 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Minimalist - November 1, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Crossless1 - November 1, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Whateverist - November 2, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Aoi Magi - November 1, 2014 at 1:27 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 1, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Crossless1 - November 1, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 2, 2014 at 5:26 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by downbeatplumb - November 2, 2014 at 7:06 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by FifthElement - November 2, 2014 at 12:10 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Thumpalumpacus - November 2, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 2, 2014 at 1:27 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Neo-Scholastic - November 3, 2014 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Thumpalumpacus - November 3, 2014 at 12:05 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 3, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Neo-Scholastic - November 3, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 3, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Neo-Scholastic - November 3, 2014 at 4:10 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 3, 2014 at 4:52 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Neo-Scholastic - November 3, 2014 at 5:15 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 3, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Neo-Scholastic - November 3, 2014 at 6:03 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 3, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Thumpalumpacus - November 3, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 4, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Thumpalumpacus - November 4, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Chas - November 3, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Mister Agenda - November 5, 2014 at 11:55 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Jenny A - November 3, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Jenny A - November 1, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by pocaracas - November 1, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by LastPoet - November 1, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by abaris - November 1, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Aoi Magi - November 1, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Thumpalumpacus - November 1, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Aoi Magi - November 1, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by abaris - November 1, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Simon Moon - November 1, 2014 at 4:47 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by abaris - November 1, 2014 at 4:51 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Thumpalumpacus - November 1, 2014 at 6:08 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Minimalist - November 3, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by LastPoet - November 1, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by robvalue - November 2, 2014 at 5:26 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by LostLocke - November 2, 2014 at 8:33 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by robvalue - November 2, 2014 at 6:35 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 3, 2014 at 7:51 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Bad Wolf - November 3, 2014 at 8:06 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by FifthElement - November 3, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by miniboes - November 2, 2014 at 6:52 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Alex K - November 2, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Bad Wolf - November 2, 2014 at 7:34 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by robvalue - November 2, 2014 at 7:37 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Cyberman - November 2, 2014 at 8:25 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by robvalue - November 2, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by miniboes - November 2, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Whateverist - November 2, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Thumpalumpacus - November 2, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Aoi Magi - November 2, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by downbeatplumb - November 2, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Aoi Magi - November 2, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by The Valkyrie - November 2, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Neo-Scholastic - November 3, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Cato - November 3, 2014 at 11:27 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 3, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by abaris - November 3, 2014 at 6:17 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by The Valkyrie - November 4, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by downbeatplumb - November 4, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 6, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Bad Wolf - November 6, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by downbeatplumb - November 6, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by The Valkyrie - November 6, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Thumpalumpacus - November 6, 2014 at 4:40 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by The Valkyrie - November 6, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Mister Agenda - November 6, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 6, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Mister Agenda - November 7, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by FifthElement - November 6, 2014 at 4:58 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by miniboes - November 3, 2014 at 8:02 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by TaraJo - November 3, 2014 at 8:04 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by ManMachine - November 3, 2014 at 8:40 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Cyberman - November 3, 2014 at 8:44 am
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by ManMachine - November 3, 2014 at 4:58 pm
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RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Mister Agenda - November 3, 2014 at 3:40 pm
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RE: Atheism = Desperation - by FatAndFaithless - November 6, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 6, 2014 at 4:25 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Bad Wolf - November 6, 2014 at 5:02 pm
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RE: Atheism = Desperation - by WinterHold - November 6, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Bad Wolf - November 6, 2014 at 6:15 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by FifthElement - November 6, 2014 at 6:26 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by Esquilax - November 6, 2014 at 7:05 pm
RE: Atheism = Desperation - by FatAndFaithless - November 6, 2014 at 5:08 pm
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