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Logic vs Evidence
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RE: Logic vs Evidence
(November 6, 2014 at 7:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 6, 2014 at 5:02 pm)TreeSapNest Wrote: Perhaps we are missing Dimaniac's question entirely.

Can a conclusion both sound and valid contradict reality?

Of course it can. If the premises are false then the conclusion is false, but can be bother logically sound. It is important to remember that in logic, 'sound' only means that the conclusion does not contradict the premises - 'sound' isn't the same as 'true'. This is the classic example:

P1. Socrates was a mammal.
P2. All mammals are cats.
C. Socrates was a cat.

Here, the problem is with P2. Thus the conclusion ('Socrates was a cat') is sound, as it follows necessarily from the premises. However, since premise 2 is demonstrable false (not all mammals are cats), the conclusion cannot be true.

Boru

Formally, the relation A=>B always yields "True" when A is false.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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Logic vs Evidence - by dimaniac - November 6, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Cato - November 6, 2014 at 11:40 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Brian37 - November 6, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Cyberman - November 6, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Whateverist - November 6, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by genkaus - November 6, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by DeistPaladin - November 6, 2014 at 11:55 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 6, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by jgnat - November 6, 2014 at 12:50 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 6, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Simon Moon - November 6, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by TreeSapNest - November 6, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by DeistPaladin - November 6, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Mudhammam - November 6, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by robvalue - November 6, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by DeistPaladin - November 6, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Mudhammam - November 6, 2014 at 6:14 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by DeistPaladin - November 6, 2014 at 6:24 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by TreeSapNest - November 6, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 6, 2014 at 7:15 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Alex K - November 6, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Cato - November 7, 2014 at 10:03 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by TreeSapNest - November 7, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Chas - November 8, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by dyresand - November 8, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by genkaus - November 7, 2014 at 10:32 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Chad32 - November 6, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by jgnat - November 6, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 7, 2014 at 6:46 am
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by MysticKnight - November 6, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Whateverist - November 7, 2014 at 11:24 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by dyresand - November 7, 2014 at 11:27 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Lao Shizi - November 8, 2014 at 3:41 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by Mequa - November 25, 2014 at 9:58 pm
RE: Logic vs Evidence - by bennyboy - November 25, 2014 at 10:41 pm

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