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Bad News with a silver lining
RE: Bad News with a silver lining
(November 8, 2014 at 2:14 pm)Heywood Wrote: I never understood why you people on the left take the effectively racist position that brown people overseas are some how not entitled to "our" manufacturing jobs.

Why do you assume that the objections are based on race? They could well be based on concern over the national industrial base.

You're engaging in rhetoric, attempting to paint in corners where your interlocutors aren't standing.

Discuss with sincerity, or shut the fuck up.

(November 8, 2014 at 4:24 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(November 8, 2014 at 4:02 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Wrong. You have to increase their purchasing power.

Negative.....you would be giving them more money to buy the exact same amount of goods and services.

Wait, first you're saying that the standard of living is increasing; but now you're saying that it's the "exact same amount of goods and services."

I'm thinking you don't know what you're talking about here. Demand doesn't happen until purchasing power meets new product.

I'm not advocating "giving them more money", either. If you wish to argue otherwise, quote and link the post, or shut the fuck up.

(November 8, 2014 at 4:24 pm)Heywood Wrote: If you want to make peoples lives better, you have to give them more stuff. You have to produce more.

No, giving stuff away is a short-term palliative to buy off the lower classes. What you really need to do is allow them to earn the money to buy the thing that, in the end, they (we) will produce.

(November 8, 2014 at 4:24 pm)Heywood Wrote: I am arguing the leftist narrative that the disparity between the rich and poor is widening is a lie when you look at from meaningful metrics. The fact that you agree with me is evidence that my argument is not a straw man but effective one.

The fact that the CBO's numbers disagree with you demonstrate your error. The fact that you think I agree with you demonstrates your lack of English comprehension.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him think."

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