(November 8, 2014 at 11:45 pm)IDScience Wrote:(November 5, 2014 at 2:58 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: It's laughably ridiculous now. The resemblance between an atom and a solar system is so superficial that it's very close to being entirely false. Clue: atoms don't really look like that, it's a gross oversimplification for the benefit of minds still in grade school.
http://physics.aps.org/story/v13/st15
Focus:"A tiny solar system after all"
Quote:The researchers used laser pulses to produce a wave packet that contained the outer electron of a lithium atom and traveled around the nucleus on an elongated elliptical orbit. They then applied microwaves whose electric field pointed in the same direction as the orbit stretched. The microwaves’ frequency also matched the rate at which the wave packet went around. The microwaves gently pushed on the packet, slowing down its front edge, speeding up its rear, and preventing it from spreading.Bolded for emphasis. This article talks about how they successfully forced an electron to have an elliptical orbit.
IDScience Wrote:http://www.dvice.com/archives/2012/01/sc...s_mode.php
Experiment shows how giant atoms act just like tiny solar systems
Quote:I remember learning about atoms for the first time and picturing them exactly like little solar systems, with electrons orbiting nuclei like planets orbiting a star. As I learned more, though, that simplistic picture got shredded by crazy wave function orbitals, and atoms started to look like abstract art. So, I'm loving the fact that you can dig down even deeper, and with some tweaking, atoms really can operate exactly like solar systems after all.Bolded for emphasis. Again, they forced the electron to behave like a planet.
Your own sources are not supporting your claim. Go read an undergraduate quantum mechanics book if you want to understand electron orbits. If you are good at math, I recommend this one.
IDScience Wrote:(November 3, 2014 at 11:06 pm)IDScience Wrote: If one universe exists, many or endless other universe all with different attributes/constants can also logically exist, and this is based solely on inference.
(November 5, 2014 at 2:58 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: The vast majority of things that can logically exist, don't.
Name them.
Bigfoot, a super model that loves me, my son, a nucleur powered car, Jedi, etc... Do I really need to go on.
IDScience Wrote:If something can logically exist, but does not exist, you must be able to empirically prove these logically possible things do not exist. This means you must have testable evidence for the "vast majority" of things that can logically exist, and also have evidence that they don't actually exist, for your statement to be valid
It is logically possible that I can have a son. I don't have a son. Therefore, logical possibility is not suffecient to prove existence.
