Purple Rabbit wrote
(quote)
I didn't exclude randomness from nature. I gave an example (Casimir) of a phenomenon that to the best of current scientifc knowledge is purely random in nature.(unquote)
PR hi
It seems to be a very interesting new discovered phenomenon about which scientists are still debating.
What bothers me in your affirmation is the expression of "pure random".
I don't know of any phenomenon in nature which can be considered as "pure".
Take phenomena such as gravity,eloctromagnetic fields,chemical reactions, lest of all phenomena of life,none of them are pure but mixed up in each event taking place in space/time with other major or minor phenomena.
(Even when you come out of the shower you are not entirely pure)
Take the most basic law of measuring of material entities such as
1+1=2,not as an abstract mathematic expression but as a mode of summing up measurable identical entities.
Well even this most simple expression can by no means by considered as pure because identical entities exist only within conventional limits and are never absolute identical being always placed in other positions within space/time coordinates.
Now, even if you did not so exactly mean the expression of "pure" the meanning of randomness for the Casimir phenomenon as presented by you seems to lead to an instantly borne material entity out of nothing previous.
Such a conception contradicts all what we know and believe about laws of the material world as we totally deny instantaneous creation.
It could be manna from heaven for creationists who will caress their bellies and cry out for all to hear "we told you that after all God exists".
I hope that scientists after having pulled out one another beards will came to the conclusion that the Casimir phenomenon is after all a result of previous events even if it happens randomely.
If you have more knowledge about this phenomenon please present it
for the benefit of our members.
(quote)
I didn't exclude randomness from nature. I gave an example (Casimir) of a phenomenon that to the best of current scientifc knowledge is purely random in nature.(unquote)
PR hi
It seems to be a very interesting new discovered phenomenon about which scientists are still debating.
What bothers me in your affirmation is the expression of "pure random".
I don't know of any phenomenon in nature which can be considered as "pure".
Take phenomena such as gravity,eloctromagnetic fields,chemical reactions, lest of all phenomena of life,none of them are pure but mixed up in each event taking place in space/time with other major or minor phenomena.
(Even when you come out of the shower you are not entirely pure)
Take the most basic law of measuring of material entities such as
1+1=2,not as an abstract mathematic expression but as a mode of summing up measurable identical entities.
Well even this most simple expression can by no means by considered as pure because identical entities exist only within conventional limits and are never absolute identical being always placed in other positions within space/time coordinates.
Now, even if you did not so exactly mean the expression of "pure" the meanning of randomness for the Casimir phenomenon as presented by you seems to lead to an instantly borne material entity out of nothing previous.
Such a conception contradicts all what we know and believe about laws of the material world as we totally deny instantaneous creation.
It could be manna from heaven for creationists who will caress their bellies and cry out for all to hear "we told you that after all God exists".
I hope that scientists after having pulled out one another beards will came to the conclusion that the Casimir phenomenon is after all a result of previous events even if it happens randomely.
If you have more knowledge about this phenomenon please present it
for the benefit of our members.
