RE: My naive questions
November 16, 2014 at 11:45 am
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2014 at 12:15 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
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Progress.
Even if we did what is that supposed to signify? Does a spirit-o have a dick whilst a spirit-a does not? Or is this, rather than informative discourse of the nature of a holy spirit - neglected discourse on the arcana of culture and mechanics?
If, for example, you described a holy spirit as female, or used "feminine traits" - does this mean that a holy spirit actually is female or has "feminine traits"? Or, rather, might it mean that you perceive females (real women, existent beings) to have these traits as a group, and that in expressing a divine narrative you found the language evocative of the underlying concepts the idiom is based upon, and therefore useful? As an example you can try for yourself. If you wanted to describe god as a parent, the "perfect parent" how would you go about doing so? Would your language be predominantly feminine or masculine (or do you think that it would be neuter)? No wrong answers, obvs.
"For verily god doth attend all of your ballgames". Am I describing the actions(or traits) of a god...or am I describing a feeling, an internal experience -about /in the periphery of/supportive of the larger concept of- a god. Is the idiom descriptive of god or is it informative of my state of mind and cultural designation/baggage? In either case is god male or female - can that be inferred from my comment? Should we (supposing this sort of stuff geeks us out) accept this attending of ballgames as a trait (whichever sex we assign it) or should we give obvious and blunt consideration to the idiom that the author used as a vehicle for god?
As a side note, did you make that original statement from the position of a "christian outsider", or do you also agree that the holy spirit is female, as christians have apparently agreed?
(November 15, 2014 at 1:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: From the original texts Islamic scholars think that the holy spirit is female. The creative force. Christians agree.-to........
(November 16, 2014 at 10:19 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Well the best we can deduce is the sex of the words. Same goes for the masculine connotations. Is God male? ... Of course not, but those are just the assignations we apply. It's how our languages work.
Progress.
Even if we did what is that supposed to signify? Does a spirit-o have a dick whilst a spirit-a does not? Or is this, rather than informative discourse of the nature of a holy spirit - neglected discourse on the arcana of culture and mechanics?If, for example, you described a holy spirit as female, or used "feminine traits" - does this mean that a holy spirit actually is female or has "feminine traits"? Or, rather, might it mean that you perceive females (real women, existent beings) to have these traits as a group, and that in expressing a divine narrative you found the language evocative of the underlying concepts the idiom is based upon, and therefore useful? As an example you can try for yourself. If you wanted to describe god as a parent, the "perfect parent" how would you go about doing so? Would your language be predominantly feminine or masculine (or do you think that it would be neuter)? No wrong answers, obvs.
"For verily god doth attend all of your ballgames". Am I describing the actions(or traits) of a god...or am I describing a feeling, an internal experience -about /in the periphery of/supportive of the larger concept of- a god. Is the idiom descriptive of god or is it informative of my state of mind and cultural designation/baggage? In either case is god male or female - can that be inferred from my comment? Should we (supposing this sort of stuff geeks us out) accept this attending of ballgames as a trait (whichever sex we assign it) or should we give obvious and blunt consideration to the idiom that the author used as a vehicle for god?
As a side note, did you make that original statement from the position of a "christian outsider", or do you also agree that the holy spirit is female, as christians have apparently agreed?
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