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R -E - S - P - E - C - T: Who gets it and who decides?
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RE: R -E - S - P - E - C - T: Who gets it and who decides?
(November 16, 2014 at 10:33 pm)whateverist Wrote: Yeah, so long as by atheism we just mean a lack of belief -and that is what a lot of us mean- then atheism really is the neutral position....the situation is not at all the same.
This whole simply only merely just lack of belief idea strikes me as not at all a truly neutral position and still quite disturbing. Any current atheist that was previously a theist has presumably had some kind of religious experience. Religious experience is so common and basic t the human condition that attributing it to illusion, or whatever, is a stance - the rejection of the idea that religious experiences are what they appear to be - divine.

BTW thank you, I think.

(November 16, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Jenny A Wrote:
(November 16, 2014 at 8:51 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Why is it that some people tacitly assume that atheism is the rational position and that theism is not? Isn’t that already a slightly disrespectful position from which to start a conversation?

Because it's not an assumption, tacit or otherwise. There is no real evidence of god. To believe without evidence is not rational. To assert there is evidence, is not a respectable position.
Case in point.

(November 16, 2014 at 10:54 pm)whateverist Wrote: ...I think I expect a lot less rationality in human affairs than you do.
You might be surprised to know that I attempt to balance the creative and experiential aspect of mind with reason and intellect. It is not that I rely on or value rationality more than other aspects of mind. I find it a useful tool to help integrate other aspects of self.
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RE: R -E - S - P - E - C - T: Who gets it and who decides? - by Neo-Scholastic - November 16, 2014 at 11:57 pm

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