Evil things Christianity supports

[The Grand Nudger]

1. You are correct that atheism cant offer anything substantial by way of power to live a better life , for, its too self serving and for real big inner change to occur in a Person it requires a power higher than oneself to make it a reality. You can only get so much from self help books and the like . For a murderer to be truly transformed inwardly, it requires a personal deep experience with the living Christ and weve seen this occur with the hardest of criminals. Now, that's real power to change a person.

Atheism doesn't make the claim that it can offer anything at all, substantial or otherwise, that would help a person live a better life. There's nothing in atheism that serves the self (or anyone). There's nothing about atheism that makes a change.

Why should there be? I just means that a person doesn't believe that there are gods flitting around over their head or under their feet.

I doubt that a murderer is "truly transformed inwardly" by the power of christ - and of course one wonders why it doesn't seem to work with any reliability if it works at all. Christians are demonstrably capable of murder, in case that was a point of confusion. If someone has made a change like that, I'm just not confident that it was christianity doing the changing. Now, this is just my approach, but I like to rule out the obvious before a say "magic!".

2. You didn't start out 'an atheist'...rather, you started out being an inquisitive innocent quasi-THEIST . Heres how it most likely went down when you were very young :

Meh, sorry, some of us have never believed, and didn't grow up with religion as a foundation in their families.

If you were a real 'Atheist' you would have no reason to ask your Parents : how did all of this get here, or, why are we here ? You would automatically assume it was by accident for no reason...but...you didnt assume that. Your Parents response , based on thier philosophical bias, groomed you to believe they were telling you the truth. Then as you entered school, you got some reinforcing ideas that you were just a cosmic accident of unpurposed Pond Scum .

Except that to me...things just being there is reason enough to ask why, and when I did ask why my parents said "I don;t know" - because they didn't. They could have lied to me - and I probably would have believed them if they did - but they went a different way with it. So I guess that;s one narrative that doesn't apply.

As the years went by, and you started to adopt a self centered lifestyle based on maximum pleasure , you found atheism best suited your lifestyle choices with the added 'benefit' of no ultimate moral accountability to anyone higher than yourself.

You mean I was a kid who liked candy? Perish the thought. I never found that atheism suited any particular lifestyle choice of mine as a kid, I didn't think about it much, nor did I need any justification for enjoying chocolate.

This continued into adulthood , where, the total freedom for pleasure seeking became a reality with being an adult. After many years of living in this addiction to SELF , you refuse anything which becomes a fly in the ointment to what youve chosen for yourself including : an unwillingness to look into evidence for Creation , not wanting a personal Creator to even exist , grasping at desperate philosophies and theories that many others embrace as a philosophical bias, and, a refusal to become LESS consumed with self gratification because it is 'your freedom and right' . In short, you have become a slave to Humanism which on the surface looks so appetizing to follow. Such is the deceptive lure of this faith based religion.

Nah, sorry, at the very moment of reaching adulthood I decided that a career in service to others was for me. So I joined the army. A life of total freedom for pleasure seeking isn't exactly the best description of military service from the 4th of July '01 (when I joined) onward. Particularly if you were infantry. Now, as to the rest, I've always been a fan of religious narratives (alot of my gripe with fundy theists is the way they butcher their own stories) and I'm of the firm opinion that life would be a hell of alot more interesting - not really better, but interesting - if there -were- gods flitting around, if magic did happen. There aren't and it doesn't, that's been a bit of a letdown for me. But oh well, the universe doesn't exist to satisfy me.

3. Its only the atheistic tenet of moral relativism that makes permissible the use of the F word as common verbage .. but im afraid that objectively and according to Gods standards, it is a sign of a low life person who suppresses his moral conscience in order to get what he wants or to talk as he wishes.

-and yet here you are...talking as you wish.

Since Atheism is utterly fallacious and a disorder congruent with human depravity (a man made philosophy born out of pride, willful rebellion, and desired arrogance) so man can live as he likes.....usage of despicable terms only serve to help justify the suppression of his moral conscience because hes made himself his own little 'god' our of convenience. I once bought into the defeatist attitudes and language of God haters ; what God has done for me , he can do for you to if you want to overcome your Will to be a God rejector.

It's funny that you mention depravity - because that's ultimately why I couldn't stomach christianity. I don't have it in me to nail a better man to a plank of wood to cover for my inequity, or to accept some gift based upon this act of cruelty and barbarism. The rest of your tirade doesn;t really apply to me, as I've explained above...so I'll let someone whom it does apply to respond to that...but I doubt you'll get any takers there - mostly because you don't seem to have the first clue as to who you are talking to or about.

In short, you're a typical cunt. We've seen you come and go. There will be more behind you, and they will make the same obvious mistakes that you have made here. You, and those like you, will continue to shit on gods "good name" -and then wonder why people are leaving faith- as you've been doing since, well, forever.