FERGUSON

[Brian37]

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Even if we were giving him the benefit of the doubt, the fact that he had personal events in his life regarding cops and death, should have been enough for him to remove himself from the case.

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You are stuck on one case, this is not about one case. This is about a system that favors law enforcement and prosecutors. The lawyers and prosecutors I have been seeing in media say that the way this guy did it is way out of the norm and should NOT have been conducted the way this guy did. These were not laypeople saying this, these were people in the same profession.

Just like you only listen to rich people who side with you and not rich people who side with me.

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Now I can tell you that it was NOT a 12 -0 vote. And I would bet when those grand jurors who did vote to send him to trial get interviewed you will not listen to them.

The entire thing stunk since day one. Since when is it department procedure to NOT write a report and then when you hand one over to investigators it contains no details.

And on top of that Wilson claimed to be scared of Brown. That is utter bullshit. You find me one training book for police where it says to physically confront a suspect while sitting down at a tactical disadvantage?

I'll tell you what happened. Wilson had had a long shift, was probably annoyed he had to go on another call. AND he testified before the conflicted started that he called for backup. Now if you are so scared why the hell would you reach for the cigars while sitting down at at tactical disadvantage?

Wilson jumped the gun because his training teaches him to dominate the situation. He was worried about the evidence, not Brown's size. If he had been worried he would have positioned the vehicle further away, gotten out of the car at a distance and been in a standing position at a tactical advantage.

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I see a Black/white issue. Where the hell do the rich come into it? You have a bug-a-boo about this.

This will go to a civil suit and Brown's family will win. There will be no prosecutor alone to select a stacked jury. Wilson will be subject to a much greater degree tougher questions than he got during this grand jury trial.

It's not likely to go to civil court for the simple reason that police acting in their capacity as police officers generally have immunity from civil lawsuits. That immunity can be overcome, but the standard is pretty high. http://civilrights.findlaw.com/civil-rig...ights.html

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Nothing in life should be about race or class, it is because humans are pattern seekers, when they see something they think works, it may for them, but they do not like looking outside their bubble. When they see a threat to that pattern they have a tendency to retract to avoid conflict or they react negatively to the challenge to their pattern.

You are stuck on my examples. I am trying to point out the issue could be about anything, and until our species can accept that those things do exist and get away from "my way or the highway" the labels will matter.

I have arguments with Haywood about economics, and no matter what I point out to him that challenges his position he ignores it.

He is doing the same here with Wilson. He does what far too many humans over ANY subject do. He sees what he wants to see.

Just like our 30 year decline and exploding pay gap. I tell him if it worked so well, no one would be complaining. And the same with how segments of our population get treated as compared to others. If all it took was "blame them" then the same types of events would not keep repeating.

His thought processes cause him to live in a bubble. No different a difficulty when you point out to a liberal theist and a conservative theist that they never consider more than two options, and that they never consider the third option in that BOTH are reading the same book with the same words.

If you understand long term behavior on evolutionary terms and have a huge sample rate over global history, you understand that labels SHOULD NOT matter, but the reason they do is that power structures in any given nation, and social pecking orders set up long term thinking and affect everyone and most of the time everyone is wrapped up in the moment and their own ideas that they cant or wont consider that there are more choices and ideas than the ones everyone they agree with buys into.

There is an evolutionary reason we as a species are pitted against each other, and most of it is needless, and most of it is because we allow power structures divide us and unfortunately that is what makes race and religion and politics so divisive and far too much of a priority.

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Even if we were giving him the benefit of the doubt, the fact that he had personal events in his life regarding cops and death, should have been enough for him to remove himself from the case.

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You are stuck on one case, this is not about one case. This is about a system that favors law enforcement and prosecutors. The lawyers and prosecutors I have been seeing in media say that the way this guy did it is way out of the norm and should NOT have been conducted the way this guy did. These were not laypeople saying this, these were people in the same profession.

Just like you only listen to rich people who side with you and not rich people who side with me.

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Now I can tell you that it was NOT a 12 -0 vote. And I would bet when those grand jurors who did vote to send him to trial get interviewed you will not listen to them.

The entire thing stunk since day one. Since when is it department procedure to NOT write a report and then when you hand one over to investigators it contains no details.

And on top of that Wilson claimed to be scared of Brown. That is utter bullshit. You find me one training book for police where it says to physically confront a suspect while sitting down at a tactical disadvantage?

I'll tell you what happened. Wilson had had a long shift, was probably annoyed he had to go on another call. AND he testified before the conflicted started that he called for backup. Now if you are so scared why the hell would you reach for the cigars while sitting down at at tactical disadvantage?

Wilson jumped the gun because his training teaches him to dominate the situation. He was worried about the evidence, not Brown's size. If he had been worried he would have positioned the vehicle further away, gotten out of the car at a distance and been in a standing position at a tactical advantage.

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I see a Black/white issue. Where the hell do the rich come into it? You have a bug-a-boo about this.

This will go to a civil suit and Brown's family will win. There will be no prosecutor alone to select a stacked jury. Wilson will be subject to a much greater degree tougher questions than he got during this grand jury trial.

It's not likely to go to civil court for the simple reason that police acting in their capacity as police officers generally have immunity from civil lawsuits. That immunity can be overcome, but the standard is pretty high. http://civilrights.findlaw.com/civil-rig...ights.html

Cities and law enforcement get sued all the time. That website isn't saying it is against the law to sue or that those filing the complaint never win. When you say "high standard" what that really means is our social structures are lopsided.

It still does not address that our laws need to change and our oversight system needs to be balanced.