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(December 1, 2014 at 9:33 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Is there somewhere that has any analysis of the evidence presented to the Grand Jury that isn'y massively partisan with hardline pre-drawn conclusions one way or another? I'm trying to investigate this issue as best I can but all I see are articles saying Wilson did everything right or Wilson is Hitler.
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Nope, focusing on one moment in time does not address the long term conditions that lead to mistrust. You can argue intent all you want.

Accept evolution, understand psychology as to human behavior in general.

I am not personally calling Wilson "Hitler". I am saying he is full of shit in what he claimed as far as being afraid of Brown. Now, it does not have to be deliberate lying. I really hate either/or because nothing is ever either/or. I am thinking about the long term conditions.

I think Wilson went in to that call with a bad attitude. I think he went in to that call with an ego. All legal issues aside, just because the laws say you can does not make it a good idea. I think Wilson wanted to show Brown who the boss was, and only got scared after he realized he got in over his head.

I think Wilson compartmentalized his actions and I think he deluded himself into justifying his actions. Arguing law is not my point.

Brown's parents are not arguing that their son had the legal right to physically confront Wilson. What they are arguing is what blacks have known for far too long. That they are hurt economically and by over policing and presumption of guilt, getting punished harsher, and are more likely to end up dead. Regardless of what Brown did, a box of cigars and a shove should not end up in a death sentence.

I have kept pointing out similar conditions where whites do stupid shit and do not end up dead.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/30...44604.html

If the majority of cops in the article above had the same view, I would have no doubt you would not see all this division. You would not see Brown's parents getting upset. You would not see nationwide protests.

If everyone wants it not to be about race, then you have to accept that it is a problem first, and it doesn't have to be intentional, even if some are intentional bigots. There are also others who are simply unaware of their own conditioning.
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FERGUSON - by Manowar - November 19, 2014 at 10:47 am
RE: FERGUSON - by strawdawg - November 19, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - November 19, 2014 at 11:53 am
RE: FERGUSON - by A Theist - November 20, 2014 at 9:15 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - November 19, 2014 at 12:04 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 19, 2014 at 2:27 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by strawdawg - November 19, 2014 at 2:12 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by polar bear - November 19, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - November 19, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Manowar - November 19, 2014 at 5:10 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 19, 2014 at 8:50 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 19, 2014 at 10:03 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by The Grand Nudger - November 19, 2014 at 9:05 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Silver - November 19, 2014 at 9:32 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - November 19, 2014 at 9:50 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Thumpalumpacus - November 20, 2014 at 9:54 am
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RE: FERGUSON - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2014 at 5:36 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Thumpalumpacus - November 20, 2014 at 6:32 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Manowar - November 23, 2014 at 10:25 am
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RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - November 24, 2014 at 10:52 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Jenny A - November 26, 2014 at 5:37 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Jenny A - November 27, 2014 at 12:24 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - November 27, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - November 27, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - November 27, 2014 at 12:20 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 27, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - November 27, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 28, 2014 at 3:29 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Gawdzilla - November 27, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by The Grand Nudger - November 27, 2014 at 2:13 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - November 27, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by abaris - November 28, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 28, 2014 at 5:12 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - November 29, 2014 at 9:23 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 29, 2014 at 9:40 am
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RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - November 29, 2014 at 10:13 am
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RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - November 29, 2014 at 10:59 am
Re: RE: FERGUSON - by KUSA - November 29, 2014 at 11:42 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Manowar - November 29, 2014 at 11:51 am
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RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 29, 2014 at 12:13 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - November 29, 2014 at 3:28 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 29, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by A Theist - November 30, 2014 at 8:08 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 30, 2014 at 9:09 am
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - December 1, 2014 at 1:25 am
RE: FERGUSON - by A Theist - December 1, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - December 1, 2014 at 9:31 am
RE: FERGUSON - by A Theist - December 2, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - December 2, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by A Theist - December 4, 2014 at 5:37 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Cato - December 4, 2014 at 5:49 am
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RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 4, 2014 at 1:09 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 4, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 4, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - December 4, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Hoopington - December 5, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 5, 2014 at 6:47 am
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RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 5, 2014 at 7:03 am
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RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 5, 2014 at 8:10 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Thumpalumpacus - December 5, 2014 at 8:11 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 5, 2014 at 9:36 am
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - December 5, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 5, 2014 at 10:03 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 5, 2014 at 1:26 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - December 4, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 1, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - November 30, 2014 at 11:06 am
RE: FERGUSON - by The Grand Nudger - November 30, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - November 30, 2014 at 4:52 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - November 30, 2014 at 8:48 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Gawdzilla - December 1, 2014 at 8:05 am
RE: FERGUSON - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: FERGUSON - by simplemoss - December 1, 2014 at 9:18 am
RE: FERGUSON - by FatAndFaithless - December 1, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 1, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 1, 2014 at 2:03 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 1, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 1, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 1, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 1, 2014 at 10:47 am
RE: FERGUSON - by FatAndFaithless - December 1, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 1, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by FatAndFaithless - December 1, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 2, 2014 at 2:15 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Thumpalumpacus - December 2, 2014 at 2:11 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by simplemoss - December 2, 2014 at 8:19 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 2, 2014 at 10:22 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 2, 2014 at 5:53 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 2, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 2, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by FatAndFaithless - December 2, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 2, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 2, 2014 at 6:00 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 2, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by abaris - December 2, 2014 at 6:30 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 2, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 2, 2014 at 7:39 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 2, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - December 2, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 2, 2014 at 6:39 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by MechViking - December 2, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Thumpalumpacus - December 2, 2014 at 10:46 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 2, 2014 at 11:32 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 3, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 3, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 3, 2014 at 10:30 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Thumpalumpacus - December 3, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 3, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 3, 2014 at 2:28 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 3, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Thumpalumpacus - December 4, 2014 at 10:39 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 3, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Hoopington - December 3, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 3, 2014 at 12:08 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Gawdzilla - December 3, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - December 3, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Hoopington - December 4, 2014 at 8:03 am
RE: FERGUSON - by FatAndFaithless - December 3, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Hoopington - December 3, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: FERGUSON - by FatAndFaithless - December 3, 2014 at 11:01 am
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RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 3, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 3, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by FatAndFaithless - December 3, 2014 at 12:12 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 3, 2014 at 12:23 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by FatAndFaithless - December 3, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 3, 2014 at 6:14 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - December 3, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Bad Wolf - December 3, 2014 at 7:39 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by DeistPaladin - December 4, 2014 at 11:36 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Hoopington - December 4, 2014 at 12:56 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by simplemoss - December 4, 2014 at 7:26 am
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 4, 2014 at 1:47 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 5, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 5, 2014 at 1:53 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Brian37 - December 5, 2014 at 3:51 pm
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RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 5, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: FERGUSON - by Heywood - December 6, 2014 at 5:32 am
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RE: FERGUSON - by Minimalist - December 20, 2014 at 12:34 am
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