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RE: we don't send ourselves to hell
December 1, 2014 at 3:26 pm
(December 1, 2014 at 3:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: (December 1, 2014 at 2:38 pm)dyresand Wrote: If you really think about it a all knowing being would be the one doing called god. god creates humans he knows the outcome he knows who is and who isn't going to hell. so this line "you send yourself to hell not god". is false. if a all knowing being who has knowledge of the past and present and our futures free will gets thrown out the window and lets forget about it. 
even if you wanted to go to heaven and well if you had knowledge that well he knows what you are going to do so he has a planned out that your going to hell because i know you are and i know what your going to do. then god is just playing around with human souls like they are a toy. I for one do not see a need for a hell because the finite time we have on earth no one really deserves it at all. and yet some people will say god doesn't interfere with free will... yes he does in the OT and the NT making a mans heart cold and not letting the jews go. Yeah god does what he sees fit, who knows the man had a change of heart he might have not let them go and in the instance he has some humanity to let gods people go god interferes and well you know what happens god gets his way like a child. Ill say this we as humans do not send ourselves to hell if there is a god because he is one controlling everything and pretty much says who is and who isn't worth of being in heaven its not our choice as it is well free will is a illusion by god. so when people say you are the one who chooses to go to hell for not believing well they are wrong. again this if god exist but i don't believe one could exist.
Sounds to me that someone is trying to convince himself that he's not going to wind up in hell, you can do something about t instead of worrying. Check out the NT, God says He desires no one to spend eternity in hell.
Also you have made the claim now bring the biblical proof, why biblical, because there's no other place to find it.
GC
No. It sounds to me like someone is calling out the nonsense. Fear is a religion tactic and a fear of hell is the ultimate religious way to make people believers and keep them in line with what the religious want them to do.
The majority of atheists have no fear of hell any more than they have a fear of hades or any other mythical location.
Most of us have also read the NT. It's not convincing.
RJA
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