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we don't send ourselves to hell
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RE: we don't send ourselves to hell
(December 1, 2014 at 7:42 pm)Nope Wrote:
(December 1, 2014 at 6:57 pm)Godschild Wrote: That's only a small part of being a Christian, and should never be the main reason to be a Christian. Glad to see you admit that Christians have nothing to fear when it comes to hell.

GC

There is no place as hell so there is no reason for anyone to be afraid of it.

The Christian god is no different then the character, Jigsaw in the Saw movies. Jigsaw set up a series of deathly tests that forced a person to chose between something horrible and dying. He claimed these bizarre tests to taught people to love life and he also claimed that he wasn't the person responsible for anyone's death. His victims decided how they would respond to the scenarios he set up. How is that not like the Christian god?

God's real your guy well the screen is where he lives.

GC

(December 1, 2014 at 7:58 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(December 1, 2014 at 7:00 pm)Godschild Wrote: A desire and His will are two very different things, to many will be in hell.
But god is not some ordinary person, beholden to the whims or needs of another. The only person god is obliged to is god. If god desires something, no one stands in his way. If god truly desires that none suffer in hell, then none will suffer in hell. Otherwise god is conflicted, and therefore his well-being is suddenly in the hands of his creation. He must spend eternity worried, because unless he removes free will, there will always be the opportunity for someone to hurt him by rejecting him.

It does not make sense for him to create that kind of reality around himself.

That's because you've never experienced God's love, free will is that important to Him. God is never conflicted, He's omniscient. His well being lays only with Him, He's omnipotent. If God was only obliged to himself, then why did Jesus die for us. Seems you have some problems in your thoughts about God.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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we don't send ourselves to hell - by dyresand - December 1, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - December 1, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by dyresand - December 1, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 1, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by abaris - December 1, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - December 1, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by dyresand - December 1, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 1, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - December 1, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Nope - December 1, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 1, 2014 at 11:11 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by dyresand - December 2, 2014 at 12:47 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Nope - December 2, 2014 at 1:11 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by dyresand - December 2, 2014 at 1:15 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Tonus - December 2, 2014 at 6:20 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Tonus - December 1, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 1, 2014 at 7:00 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - December 1, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 1, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - December 1, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Tonus - December 1, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Neo-Scholastic - December 1, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Cato - December 1, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by John V - December 1, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Neo-Scholastic - December 1, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by John V - December 2, 2014 at 8:23 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Tonus - December 2, 2014 at 9:27 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by abaris - December 2, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Neo-Scholastic - December 2, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by John V - December 2, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by abaris - December 2, 2014 at 6:16 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Minimalist - December 1, 2014 at 3:45 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by dyresand - December 1, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Drich - December 1, 2014 at 5:46 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by IATIA - December 1, 2014 at 7:49 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Minimalist - December 1, 2014 at 5:54 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by dyresand - December 1, 2014 at 6:22 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 1:54 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 2, 2014 at 4:30 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Nope - December 2, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by IATIA - December 2, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Cato - December 2, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by abaris - December 2, 2014 at 10:20 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - December 2, 2014 at 2:13 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Whateverist - December 2, 2014 at 9:06 am
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by dyresand - December 2, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - December 2, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 2, 2014 at 3:59 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by FatAndFaithless - December 2, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by FatAndFaithless - December 2, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 5:26 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - December 2, 2014 at 4:14 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by FatAndFaithless - December 2, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 4:13 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by FatAndFaithless - December 2, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by abaris - December 2, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 4:53 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by FatAndFaithless - December 2, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - December 2, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by FatAndFaithless - December 2, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by abaris - December 2, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by Godschild - December 2, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by dyresand - December 2, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by abaris - December 2, 2014 at 4:59 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by FatAndFaithless - December 2, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: we don't send ourselves to hell - by KevinM1 - December 2, 2014 at 6:58 pm

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