RE: Garden of Eden was a setup...
December 2, 2014 at 4:54 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2014 at 5:10 am by robvalue.)
I love toying with God and free will. God knows everything, even what he will do. So he has no free will!
I've heard the argument that pre cognition isn't the same as pre determination. I agree to an extent, but the problem I have is that if a choice is genuinely going to be made, it should be impossible to have pre cognition of it. Logically impossible I mean.
To demonstrate... Say I am about to walk through either a red or blue door.
Some guy outside the universe has a pre cognition that I will go through the red door. He knows it for definite.
That guy now enters the universe and tells me this pre cognition. Can I choose to go through the blue door?
If I can, pre cognition was wrong. If I cant, I'm not making a choice after all.
Of course, this is all assuming there is such a thing as a free choice. I don't believe that personally, I think science will show us more and more that choices are deterministic or based on random activity at the quantum level.
And if they are random... Again, you can't predict random.
I've heard the argument that pre cognition isn't the same as pre determination. I agree to an extent, but the problem I have is that if a choice is genuinely going to be made, it should be impossible to have pre cognition of it. Logically impossible I mean.
To demonstrate... Say I am about to walk through either a red or blue door.
Some guy outside the universe has a pre cognition that I will go through the red door. He knows it for definite.
That guy now enters the universe and tells me this pre cognition. Can I choose to go through the blue door?
If I can, pre cognition was wrong. If I cant, I'm not making a choice after all.
Of course, this is all assuming there is such a thing as a free choice. I don't believe that personally, I think science will show us more and more that choices are deterministic or based on random activity at the quantum level.
And if they are random... Again, you can't predict random.
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