RE: The bible and ancient history.
December 2, 2014 at 9:15 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2014 at 9:21 am by Lemonvariable72.)
(December 2, 2014 at 5:22 am)ManMachine Wrote:(November 30, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: When I was in high school guitar hero was a insanely popular game, everyone loved it. But many in the music business soon found out that many in to guitar hero had a harder time learning real guitar. It was because they made assumptions about the song based on their guitar hero experience. Experience and assumptions they made about the song would be flatly wrong.
I wonder if archeology suffers from the same problem. Perhaps we have been assuming the bible is even remotely accurate. I would propose that we throw the book out wholesale and try to eliminate all assumptions of the ancient world based on the Bible. That way we can start with a clean slate, and draw our conclusions based on the historical evidence. If that eventually does prove the bible accurate then so be it.
All history is corrupted by the views of the people who record it, it's not a problem limited to Biblical studies.
A lot of Americans will tell you that the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was necessary to bring the war to a conclusion. However, there are others who see America as the first and only country ever to use nuclear weapons against fellow humans and see it as a very evil act. The reality of the atomic bombs is relative to the individual, as is all history.
Historical and archaeological studies, by their nature, have highly subjective elements. Sections of the bible is known to be at least 2000 years old (the dead sea scrolls contain biblical fragments that can be dated to approx. 150 BEC), it is a viable historic document, same as the Rosetta stone or the Gilgamesh cuneiform. The story might not be real but the setting is informative.
MM
That assumption right there is what I'm questioning. I think most of the OT, more so the parts referring Rehoboam and back are so faulty that even the information they give on the setting is likely bad.
(December 2, 2014 at 3:00 am)Godschild Wrote:(December 2, 2014 at 2:46 am)Minimalist Wrote: What the fuck are you babbling about now? Do you ever know what you are talking about?
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/piye.htm
The 25th dynasty was driven out by the Assyrians under Esarhaddon.
But we sure as shit know their fucking names.
You can't stand it when the Bible proves ancient history and for someone who appreciates history like you seem to, should be happy no matter were the facts come from. Also I wasn't referring to the first black pharaoh, the one I'm referring to was possibly the last, He did however help postpone Assyria's attack upon Jerusalem. I just watched a PBS special on the people who are digging up these sites and answering these questions. Nubian's were tired of Egypt's treatment of them and the great warriors Egypt employed from Nubia, turned on them and defeated Egypt.
GC
Did you miss the part where he talked about how they have variation in spelling from different sources? Hence we have multiple sources.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.