I've been restraining myself from posting here for the past days... but I think I snapped something just now.
Also, "proven"? Usually, a doctor declares a patient as dead, not proves the patient is dead.
To prove a patient is dead, they'd have to run some sort of a brainscan... or wait long enough - typically, 5 minutes without oxygen is enough for braindeath to be declared with very little margin of error, but 10 minutes is even better!
Still, there's a likelihood of error.
You attribute that newly formed memory to NDE.... we say it's much much more likely to be just dreams.
(December 5, 2014 at 10:51 am)Riketto Wrote: It is absolutely bizarre that one day the atheists say that only science (meaning physical science) can be the answer but when a doctor (using physical science) say that the guy is dead the atheist say that he wasn't really dead.Because we know that people make mistakes... and doctors are people. And, usually, the diagnosis of death doesn't get peer reviewed, so... yeah.
NDEs were about people proven dead by the doctor not by Santa.
Now when someone who is proven dead by a doctor this is your science not Santa fake science.
Also, "proven"? Usually, a doctor declares a patient as dead, not proves the patient is dead.
To prove a patient is dead, they'd have to run some sort of a brainscan... or wait long enough - typically, 5 minutes without oxygen is enough for braindeath to be declared with very little margin of error, but 10 minutes is even better!
Still, there's a likelihood of error.
(December 5, 2014 at 10:51 am)Riketto Wrote: So if the guy come back to life with something that he-she remember very well why not take him seriously?So the guy maybe wasn't dead to begin with, just weak... very weak... unnoticeable heartbeat... no motion... and then the person wakes up, claiming to have seen or felt something while in that low powered state.
And when instead of one guy there are thousand of guys that have the same or similar experience then the whole thing make sense.
You attribute that newly formed memory to NDE.... we say it's much much more likely to be just dreams.