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Suicide: An Ethical Delimna
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RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna
(December 14, 2014 at 10:20 am)bennyboy Wrote: But suicide, with a few exceptions (like being captured by terrorists looking for information), is unethical at its core, as it disregards the suffering inflicted on others in one's pursuit to end self-suffering.
Assuming the role of someone contemplating suicide and also assuming there is no other alternative to relieve my suffering, why is someone else not suffering more important than me not suffering? Wouldn't empathetic consideration for others only serve to worsen my personal suffering? Besides, consideration for another's condition disappears the moment I'm dead so it is perhaps just another problem solved from the perspective of someone committing suicide. It also seems fair to conclude that consequences for others has already been considered in the pros and cons of committing suicide or it is of absolutely no consequence.

I don't find appeals to the condition of others very convincing when considering suicide, even in cases where its easy to demonstrate a duty of care; e.g., having minor children. Someone seriously considering suicide is probably going to have issues being a caregiver, not to mention the somewhat frequent accounts of children becoming victims in murder-suicides.

Far better to help someone with his/her struggles as I'm not sure how receptive that person would be to an ethical argument regarding the merits of suicide, even if it were unethical by consensus.
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Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by LivingNumbers - November 29, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by The Grand Nudger - November 29, 2014 at 8:08 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Jenny A - November 29, 2014 at 8:08 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Peebo-Thuhlu - November 29, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - November 29, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by The Grand Nudger - November 29, 2014 at 8:29 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by vorlon13 - November 29, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Peebo-Thuhlu - November 29, 2014 at 8:47 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Chad32 - November 29, 2014 at 8:45 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by LivingNumbers - November 29, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by TreeSapNest - December 1, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by TheRealJoeFish - December 1, 2014 at 5:46 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Losty - December 1, 2014 at 5:52 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by MysticKnight - December 1, 2014 at 6:23 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Strider - December 4, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Minimalist - December 4, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Losty - December 4, 2014 at 2:03 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by FatAndFaithless - December 4, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Violet - December 4, 2014 at 9:03 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Ravenshire - December 4, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 5, 2014 at 4:57 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by ManMachine - December 5, 2014 at 5:16 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 5, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by ManMachine - December 12, 2014 at 7:19 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by stillagnostic - December 6, 2014 at 1:06 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 12, 2014 at 12:28 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Ryantology - December 12, 2014 at 5:09 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Losty - December 12, 2014 at 8:32 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 13, 2014 at 6:30 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Ryantology - December 13, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 13, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Ryantology - December 14, 2014 at 3:04 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Losty - December 14, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 14, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by FlyingNarwhal - December 14, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by MysticKnight - December 14, 2014 at 11:33 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by FlyingNarwhal - December 18, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 18, 2014 at 8:03 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 15, 2014 at 12:11 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Losty - December 15, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 15, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Losty - December 15, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 16, 2014 at 12:28 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Ryantology - December 16, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Thumpalumpacus - December 17, 2014 at 1:28 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Losty - December 14, 2014 at 1:26 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 14, 2014 at 1:44 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 12, 2014 at 4:36 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 12, 2014 at 4:51 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 12, 2014 at 4:55 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 12, 2014 at 5:12 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by The Grand Nudger - December 12, 2014 at 5:44 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 12, 2014 at 5:53 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by thesummerqueen - December 12, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Aractus - December 13, 2014 at 7:40 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Chad32 - December 13, 2014 at 9:08 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Aractus - December 13, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Aractus - December 14, 2014 at 8:21 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 13, 2014 at 9:13 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by ManMachine - December 15, 2014 at 6:32 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Minimalist - December 14, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 14, 2014 at 1:59 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Minimalist - December 14, 2014 at 2:04 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 14, 2014 at 3:19 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Ryantology - December 14, 2014 at 4:07 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 14, 2014 at 8:13 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 8:16 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 14, 2014 at 10:20 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Chas - December 14, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Cato - December 14, 2014 at 12:31 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 11:50 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 14, 2014 at 12:31 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by The_greatest_river - December 15, 2014 at 3:21 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Ryantology - December 15, 2014 at 3:44 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by thesummerqueen - December 15, 2014 at 5:46 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 15, 2014 at 6:37 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Faith No More - December 15, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by comet - December 15, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Losty - December 16, 2014 at 12:46 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 16, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Losty - December 16, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 16, 2014 at 5:12 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Losty - December 16, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 16, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Mudhammam - December 16, 2014 at 6:20 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 16, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Mudhammam - December 16, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 17, 2014 at 5:19 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by MysticKnight - December 17, 2014 at 12:49 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 2:55 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 17, 2014 at 8:12 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 8:22 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 17, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Vosur - December 17, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2014 at 3:10 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 4:21 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 18, 2014 at 5:48 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2014 at 9:59 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by bennyboy - December 19, 2014 at 5:02 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2014 at 4:44 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 5:31 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 6:00 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Thumpalumpacus - December 19, 2014 at 6:07 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by AwakeOSleeper - December 26, 2014 at 2:35 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by Faith No More - December 26, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by fr0d0 - December 26, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: Suicide: An Ethical Delimna - by robvalue - December 27, 2014 at 3:26 am

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