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god has no free will
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RE: god has no free will
(December 16, 2014 at 1:30 am)robvalue Wrote: God has exercised his free will to make himself into a logical absurdity and an untestable non-being indistinguishable from nothing.

He said to me, "What more can I do to get these people to leave me alone?" I didn't know what to tell him.

If God has made any choices, he made them all at once at some point in the past. He's not making any now, since he cannot differ from what he has known he will do beforehand at every point. If he does, then his knowledge was wrong.

The problem is that if someone is making a real choice, it is logically impossible that anyone can know the outcome of the choice beforehand. It's just a demonstration of why omni claims are absurd. If you "know enough that you can tell what they will do" then they are acting predictably, and not making any choice.

Pretty much exactly. god couldn't be omni everything. if god had free will he must not have knowledge of everything and the outcome, this in of itself would make god imperfect.
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god has no free will - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 9:31 pm
RE: god has no free will - by The Valkyrie - December 14, 2014 at 9:38 pm
RE: god has no free will - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 9:49 pm
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 9:59 pm
RE: god has no free will - by Whateverist - December 16, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: god has no free will - by IATIA - December 16, 2014 at 9:55 am
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 15, 2014 at 12:33 am
RE: god has no free will - by Heywood - December 15, 2014 at 6:17 pm
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 15, 2014 at 6:41 pm
RE: god has no free will - by Heywood - December 15, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 15, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: god has no free will - by IATIA - December 15, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: god has no free will - by Heywood - December 15, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 15, 2014 at 11:20 pm
RE: god has no free will - by Heywood - December 16, 2014 at 10:40 am
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 16, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: god has no free will - by Spooky - December 15, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: god has no free will - by rexbeccarox - December 15, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: god has no free will - by IATIA - December 15, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: god has no free will - by robvalue - December 16, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 16, 2014 at 9:26 am
RE: god has no free will - by JonDarbyXIII - December 16, 2014 at 9:42 am
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 16, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: god has no free will - by JonDarbyXIII - December 16, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: god has no free will - by Heywood - December 16, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: god has no free will - by JonDarbyXIII - December 16, 2014 at 10:58 am
RE: god has no free will - by Heywood - December 16, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 16, 2014 at 11:07 am
RE: god has no free will - by Heywood - December 16, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: god has no free will - by JonDarbyXIII - December 16, 2014 at 11:40 am
RE: god has no free will - by JonDarbyXIII - December 16, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 16, 2014 at 11:27 am
RE: god has no free will - by Heywood - December 16, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: god has no free will - by dyresand - December 16, 2014 at 12:05 pm
RE: god has no free will - by Heywood - December 16, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: god has no free will - by JonDarbyXIII - December 16, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: god has no free will - by Heywood - December 16, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: god has no free will - by Whateverist - December 16, 2014 at 9:57 am
RE: god has no free will - by FatAndFaithless - December 16, 2014 at 10:40 am
RE: god has no free will - by robvalue - December 16, 2014 at 12:59 pm
RE: god has no free will - by Whateverist - December 16, 2014 at 7:10 pm
RE: god has no free will - by IATIA - December 16, 2014 at 7:11 pm

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