RE: The Purity Movement
December 23, 2014 at 5:04 am
(This post was last modified: December 23, 2014 at 5:22 am by Godscreated.)
(December 22, 2014 at 11:31 pm)TRJF Wrote:(December 22, 2014 at 10:50 pm)Godschild Wrote: Their girls are not your responsibility. Now I do not agree with all the purity movement but, there are good things about it.
I find the bolded to be a really, really disgusting sentiment. Yes, they are our - the collective "our" - responsibility.
If I had children they would not be a part of any collective, they would be mine and I would harm you if you tried to interfere.
Quote:I live in a place where you can't force other people to raise their kids how you would, and that's a very good thing.
Then what are you talking about with this collective crap. No one in this country can force another's child to do anything, parents have the right to raise their children as they see fit.
Quote: But when children (individually and collectively) are being taught things like "feel bad if you think about sex before marriage" (and, for that matter, bullshit like "science is all a big liberal plot, so don't listen to your biology teacher" and "the highest goal in your life should be to protect the unborn"), it's a BIG problem because it means lots of individual children are going to be harmed and stifled, and a huge chunk of society is going to be unprepared to help us make any accomplishments to help humans' lives improve.
Did I say I agreed with the entire Purity movement, no I did not, so take your opinion of what I said and stuff it. If I wanted to raise my children to try and be sexually pure I would, personally I believe it's a good idea, it keeps things from getting complicated in their future.
But then I wouldn't expect atheist to agree with me because for them it's get all you can when you can and don't think about the consequences down the road. There is a great value to virginity, one I'm sure you can't nor care to see.
Quote:IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY
Try and stick your hand into the way my sister and her husband raised their children and you would pull back a nub, then you would have to deal with their uncle. Christians have the right to raise their children the way they feel is best for them, so you and the world can stay out of our families.
GC
(December 22, 2014 at 11:47 pm)Nope Wrote:Quote:Now I do not agree with all the purity movement but, there are good things about it.
Lots of Christians do not agree with the purity movement, thankfully. It causes a lot of harm. Elizabeth Smart has spoken out about harmful the movement's idea of sexual purity was to her after she was kidnapped and raped.
I wouldn't say it causes a lot of harm, what you hear and are referring to are a few cases out of tens of thousands of teens and young adult. Please remember that many young adults are participating in the purity program and they make their own choices to be involved. Like all programs with the best intentions, there will always be problems to work out and problems that are exaggerated because someone gets hurt by something not expected. No program is perfect but, if this one works with 90% of young people that's a great deal of young people who do not get STD's, pregnant and many other problems. I know this program want reach 90% it was a number I brought up to stress what good can come from the program.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...al-assault
Quote:The dehumanization that purity culture inflicts was described by Smart in her speech when she talked about the sex education:
"I had a teacher who was talking about abstinence, she said, 'Imagine you're a stick of gum and when you engage in sex, that's like getting chewed, and if you do that lots of times, you're going to become an old piece of gum, and who's going to want you after that?"
Smart says those words rang in her memory. She felt ruined.
This is from the same article in the link.
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Like I said not all parts of the program work well mostly because teachers get over zealous in their teachings, which is unfortunate.
One thing I see out of atheist, they will jump on an issue that comes up in Christianity and run Christians down. They never explore all the good that comes from many Christian programs, hatred of a people is a very bad thing, we try to do what's best for our families just like most others.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.