(January 4, 2015 at 9:42 am)robvalue Wrote: If everything needs a cause, what caused the first cause?
Theist will say that God has always existed and/or exists outside of time* and therefore doesn't need a cause. And this isn't special pleading because blah blah blah blah blah you're going to hell if you ask questions like that.
*They tend to have zero understanding of time, which means that they can both convince themselves that this is true, and throughly confuse anyone with a modicum of knowledge about physics. Time is actually not very well understood by the brightest of physicists, yet the Theist claims to know more about time than they do. This insistence that they know more about science than the experts is the thing about Theists that annoys me more than any other.