(January 6, 2015 at 8:19 pm)Heywood Wrote: In order to observe intellects outside of earth, I have to look outside of earth and I do not have the means to do that in any substantial detail. This is why I do not observe these generic intellects.
But you assume they're out there based on, ahem, "0, zilch, nada... not even one observation of a generic intellect," eh?
Quote:On the other hand you have a problem. If evolutionary systems can come into existence on this planet sans intellect as you are arguing....You should be able to observe evolutionary systems come into existence on this planet sans intellects.
Well, given that the only evolutionary system on Earth is nature, it's very possible that we do have an example of such a system. Neither of us know for certain, but what we can ascertain is that your reasoning for excluding natural means and leaning toward intelligent design is nonsensical.
Quote: Instead you only observe evolutionary systems coming into existence on this planet with the help of intellects. Your beliefs do not match the observations. In fact observations contradict your beliefs.
Well, if we're going to argue based on observations then we've also not seen any evolutionary systems arise as a result of non human intelligences, as we've not observed any of those at a level of complexity sufficient to accomplish that.
If you want to argue based on observations then at best you are making two assumptions that aren't based on observation, whereas I'm only making one. Of course, since my position is that we don't know how our natural evolutionary system arose, but that your argument is stupid, I'm not making any beliefs that don't match observations at all, whereas the observations we do have exclusively contradict your beliefs, and not mine.
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