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Implications of not having free will
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RE: Implications of not having free will
(January 7, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Alex K Wrote: For all we know, quantum measurements are truly random, but an unknown or even undiscoverable systematic in terms of hidden variables could be behind it which lets physics be deterministic again despite the appearance.

I've thought about this a lot actually, I like the idea that the quantum world is really just the tip of an invisible iceberg

(January 7, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Alex K Wrote: I disagree that the macroscopic averaging out of quantum noise makes these effects irrelevant. Noise plays an important role in neural networks and can influence the outcomes.

Could you provide any links to specific studies showing quantum noise effecting neural networks? I'll have a search on google scholar anyhow.

Either way surely this could only result in an occasional misfire, not anything equitable to free will? Or do you propose some quantum-biological system evolved to allow free will?

That reminds me of an article I read in the New Scientist about migratory birds using entanglement to navigate the electromagnetic field. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20...K3IHSusWSo

(January 7, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Alex K Wrote: I don't see how true randomness would rescue free will though.

But before I go on about that, first a question: how do you define free will, I'm not sure I know what the word means

The ability to, at a single point in time, choose between more than one action.
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Implications of not having free will - by Spacedog - January 7, 2015 at 5:28 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Dystopia - January 7, 2015 at 5:34 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Esquilax - January 7, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Dystopia - January 7, 2015 at 7:35 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by JuliaL - January 7, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Angrboda - January 7, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Dystopia - January 7, 2015 at 7:23 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by bennyboy - January 8, 2015 at 8:22 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Alex K - January 7, 2015 at 6:29 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Spacedog - January 7, 2015 at 7:59 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Anomalocaris - January 9, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by JuliaL - January 9, 2015 at 6:51 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by IATIA - January 7, 2015 at 6:33 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Alex K - January 7, 2015 at 6:43 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by IATIA - January 7, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Spacedog - January 7, 2015 at 7:33 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Mudhammam - January 7, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Spacedog - January 7, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Mudhammam - January 7, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Spacedog - January 8, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Mudhammam - January 9, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Spacedog - January 26, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Alex K - January 7, 2015 at 8:16 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by professor - January 26, 2015 at 7:05 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by IATIA - January 26, 2015 at 7:12 pm
RE: Implications of not having free will - by Pyrrho - February 8, 2015 at 5:48 pm

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