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To Christians...Theocracy?
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
(January 10, 2015 at 10:23 pm)Grasshopper Wrote: 1) yeah the writers laid down rules so it wouldn't get out of hand. They just used gods name to make it sound authoritative. For the eriters of leviticus, murder and stealing was a more serious concern. And EVEN IF God wrote these laws, isn't it better he laid out guidelines for their treatment rather than let it go on freely? You see back then they were considered human with actual rights.
Well... the bible is pointless in a modern age but people use it as a tool of hate like other religions and tool of fear to control the masses. Is it needed anymore no i don't think so. Does it contribute any good? hardly..
(January 10, 2015 at 10:23 pm)Grasshopper Wrote: 2) I already said I don't take bible as moral authority. Can I help it if other people do?
Good then we agree the bible isn't more here is a cookie.
(January 10, 2015 at 10:23 pm)Grasshopper Wrote: 3) Your post indicates anger. What are you angry about? That an imaginary person in the sky you don't believe in didn't ban slavery? Or that the Israelites had such a rule in the first place? Or that books such as leviticus were used in the past to justify horrific crimes?
Now I'm not talking as a christian I'm talking as a secularist
Let it go man. We're long past that. Your arguments would've perhaps helped reduce slavery in the 16th century. Or maybe not. Now in this century you grew up in a culture where everyone thinks slavery is wrong that's why you are against it.
If you were a 17th century colonist you perhaps wouldn't have had a slave, but you most likely wouldn't be against it either. It's all about how much we've evolved as a species.
Best not to get riled up by past events I always say. Whatever happened has happened. Yes people have been hurt and brutalized over the past 400 years but now it's gone. What's more we arose as a people ever more wiser.
And religion is an easy thing to use for bad things. But I didnt make a big deal when when I first heard Aztecs used to sacrifice people for the sun god or anything or that romans gathered in thousands to watch people get eaten by lions. You know why? It's because those things are gone and in the past. Just as slavery in Christian nations is in the past. Christianity, is following jesus and if they didn't love their neighbors, bad for them. If you're angry that a couple of imperialists used Christianity to justify their actions I'm sorry but you're born in the wrong time period. Anything can be brought up from the past to use in a bad way.
if there was anything written against slavery in the bible it would've still taken place. It would just be one of the many things modern Christians overlook like shrimp. If slavery was said to be wrong, they'd say the old testament doesn't hold for us anymore and they'd look to the romans for slavery tips

Anyone who was foreign to those specific areas gotten turned into slaves. The jews were the special indentured servants the only few that did want to stay were given wives so they had no point in leaving their family. The other way to become a slave is to work off your debts for the person you owed money to and even still they can get you with the whole wife deal. Only the smart ones said i don't want this.
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To Christians...Theocracy? - by Nope - January 8, 2015 at 10:28 am
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