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To Christians...Theocracy?
RE: To Christians...Theocracy?
(January 10, 2015 at 11:10 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(January 10, 2015 at 7:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I don't have to justify your theology PT. My theology is different.

I'm asking you to justify your criticism, which should be obvious to someone as seemingly intelligent as yourself. This leads me to believe you don't have a critique, or you realize that you're committing tu quoque.

In either instance, I'm entitled to regard your criticism as.meaningless.

Feel free to show me otherwise.

Grasshopper -- I missed the part where you derided the Bible's moral authority, and thought you were defending slavery, which has happened a couple of times in the last two weeks. The defense of slavery certainly irritates me.

My apologies for my misapprehension.

Ya it's fine. I converted to Orthodox because I found too much rigidity in understanding and interpretation of theological subjects. When there's a central authority on subjects it becomes problematic. I respect the pope alot but can't seem to take one man's or one churches interpretation as true.

For example-
1) catholics believe mary had to be born especially without sin. Orthodox believe it's okay to think she's sinless but it wasn't needed. Since no one is born with sin and can live without sin.

2) other Christians believe sin is an act which god doesn't like and therefore throws you into hell for. But orthodox call sin (amartia) which is " missing the mark" which hampers our progress to perfection/ deification.

3) orthodox hell isn't a place of torture. Orthodox heaven isn't a place in the clouds.
Hell and heaven are in the same plane of existence- this one.
God's presence is seen as beautiful light by believers and fire by the hellbound.
Since believers believe they will rejoice in the light. But since nonbelievers don't believe that light will be painful. Imagine a miner underground for days. When he comes up the light troubles him. Same theory. These depictions of heaven and hell are meant to be allegorical for real life.

4) other differences-condoms aren't sinful in marriage. Sometimes divorces are necessary. But it's only valid if done in church fashion

This was just a summary of differences. Don't think I'm advertising. Thank God we have brains and a choice how to read the bible as we wish. That being said-I take only the latter part of the old testament and the entire new testament as worthy of being read
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To Christians...Theocracy? - by Nope - January 8, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by rexbeccarox - January 8, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Nope - January 8, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by rexbeccarox - January 8, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by dyresand - January 8, 2015 at 3:43 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Minimalist - January 8, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Drich - January 8, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Nope - January 8, 2015 at 8:40 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Silver - January 8, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 4:03 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 10, 2015 at 4:40 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Tonus - January 10, 2015 at 10:16 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Nope - January 10, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 8, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by dyresand - January 8, 2015 at 4:26 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Nope - January 8, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 9, 2015 at 3:07 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by professor - January 8, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Minimalist - January 8, 2015 at 8:56 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Cato - January 8, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by IATIA - January 8, 2015 at 9:27 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Ravenshire - January 9, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by IATIA - January 9, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by abaris - January 9, 2015 at 8:12 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by IATIA - January 9, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by abaris - January 9, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by fr0d0 - January 8, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Nope - January 9, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by abaris - January 10, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by abaris - January 10, 2015 at 3:53 pm
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RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Simon Moon - January 8, 2015 at 9:03 pm
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RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Silver - January 8, 2015 at 9:39 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Tonus - January 10, 2015 at 12:03 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Minimalist - January 8, 2015 at 9:34 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Godschild - January 9, 2015 at 2:25 am
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RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 9, 2015 at 1:05 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Drich - January 9, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 9, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Natachan - January 9, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Godschild - January 9, 2015 at 7:36 pm
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RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by rexbeccarox - January 9, 2015 at 8:12 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Godschild - January 9, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by IATIA - January 9, 2015 at 8:35 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Godschild - January 10, 2015 at 12:12 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by rexbeccarox - January 9, 2015 at 8:38 pm
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RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2015 at 10:52 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 4:50 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 10, 2015 at 5:13 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 7:33 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 10, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 1:50 pm
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RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by dyresand - January 10, 2015 at 11:03 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2015 at 3:43 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 10, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 6:04 am
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RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 6:54 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 9:08 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Whateverist - January 10, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Whateverist - January 10, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Tonus - January 10, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by abaris - January 10, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by dyresand - January 10, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by dyresand - January 10, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by dyresand - January 10, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Full Circle - January 10, 2015 at 12:03 pm
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RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by dyresand - January 10, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by fr0d0 - January 10, 2015 at 7:19 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 10, 2015 at 11:10 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 10, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by IATIA - January 10, 2015 at 11:45 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 11, 2015 at 12:06 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 11, 2015 at 12:46 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by fr0d0 - January 11, 2015 at 2:18 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 11, 2015 at 12:44 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Nope - January 11, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by IATIA - January 11, 2015 at 12:09 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 11, 2015 at 4:11 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 11, 2015 at 4:52 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 11, 2015 at 5:01 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by Grasshopper - January 11, 2015 at 5:22 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by IATIA - January 11, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by robvalue - January 11, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: To Christians...Theocracy? - by fr0d0 - January 11, 2015 at 4:47 pm

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