RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 11, 2015 at 11:50 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2015 at 12:14 am by Chili.)
(January 11, 2015 at 8:16 am)bennyboy Wrote:(January 10, 2015 at 9:50 am)BlackMason Wrote: Here's another point against goal driven nature:
1) Women have nipples for the purpose of breast feeding.
2) Unlike women, men have nipples for no reason.
3) Nipples come from nature.
C) It is not the case that nature is purpose driven.
I don't think that makes sense. It's true that men don't make milk, but a) it could have been that some early mammals' males DID make milk; b) there may be added efficiency in not differentiating body parts. For example, many parts of the penis and vagina are actually shared structures, and they differentiate as the fetus develops; this saves energy during the crucial early development of the fetus.
It's just that evolutionary purpose is one about statistical persistence-- not necessarily the apparent outer "purpose" of an adult organisim.
Huh? Our sex is an illusion and is that not why early stage embryos are all female?
It is not my ambition to prove this here but as I understand it the actual sex cell division begins later. So obviously our sex is an add-on, or not.
(January 11, 2015 at 8:59 pm)Chili Wrote:(January 11, 2015 at 7:42 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: To be fair to catholics for centuries everything was in latin which no-one but the priests spoke so their faith was whatever their particular priest told them it was.
It's only recently that they all knew what the hell the bible said.
That is they whole point, the bible is not for Catholics.
Just so you know, the Gospels begin where Catholicism ends, and therefore only a couple passages are read to re-enact the Rich man and Lazarus parable, where the scraps where the only food needed to get the job done.
And I am talking "Church Militant" here where the confessionals are at.
Let me make this is an add-on as I did not have time to finish this earlier, or, maybe more should be added to make this clear (regardless how controversial it will be).
The Gospels typically begin where Paul's race is ran, and this began when Paul fell off the high horse he was riding while taxing religion as if his shepherds were also herding sheep in the middle of a midwinter night. It can be called 'insights on the run' that first began with 'our soul on the run' to form telic visions that become insights for us. It therefore is that they are always local, they are current, and they are personally ours and that is why woman is universal and 'the' woman personal to make 'the man' in us.
So the gospels have nothing to do with religion but with how to work out your own salvation, and that would be after the fact.
Sorry, I should maybe add that to ride a high horse you must have stripes on your collar, and then if you need 12 of those it would follow that many may be called but not many are chosen, which so now makes it a midlife event, and hence 38-40 is peculiar for this. This then is where my earlier MENO-pause would serve us well.