RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 2:55 am
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2015 at 3:12 am by Grasshopper.)
Well you guys have shared interesting views. I'll try my best to address the faults you find. The only people who responded before I began writing this were dyresand, steelcurtain and alex k so I'll be addressing only them.
Alex- it's good you take theistic opinions kindly on the forums.
Now forget I said anything about the brain and eye. That's just what I found beautiful about creation.
The fact you thought #2 was correct is curious. Atheists elsewhere agreed with #1.
Anyways I didn't say the universe came from anywhere but the big bang.
If #1 was true there is a chance it happened in the way that life would have time to grow. I mean what if the big bang was minutely more intense? The stars and their galaxy would've flown off with much more force and the "dark era" (yes- it's a term) would have kicked off substantially earlier maybe not giving us time for the earth to have been created, since the sun-making particles would've been too far off to collect and create the sun.
Instead we have a working universe full of activity- creation and collapse of stars etc.
All far-fetched hypothetical speculation but still . .
Don't give it much thought.
Now steelcurtain- yes I agree. We could be intelligent beings or we could be slimy octopuses on land. We could also have the earth never existing. But reality (or our version of reality) is that finally we are beings with 2 hands and 2 legs which are intelligent enough to make speculate what is beyond our telescopes view of the universe
Aoi Magi that's saying all theists are ignorant of science and don't want to learn about the universe. I've been interested in the origin of the universe and theories on how it'll end. You may find it disrespectful of theists to attribute it to a creator but I'm not going to apologize for it. Who is it disrespectful to anyway? The big bang? Like it has feelings
I didn't even mention a "sky daddy." I kept this strictly deistic
To each their own I guess.
Also I didn't get your painter analogy. Do YOU know who the painter is? I'm acknowledging a painter did it. Are you saying you believe it was a series of accidents when paint just flew due to an explosion and accidentally created a beautiful painting
This was only meant for Aoi magi to point out the fault in his analogy not for anyone else. Just a disclaimer
Alex- it's good you take theistic opinions kindly on the forums.
Now forget I said anything about the brain and eye. That's just what I found beautiful about creation.
The fact you thought #2 was correct is curious. Atheists elsewhere agreed with #1.
Anyways I didn't say the universe came from anywhere but the big bang.
If #1 was true there is a chance it happened in the way that life would have time to grow. I mean what if the big bang was minutely more intense? The stars and their galaxy would've flown off with much more force and the "dark era" (yes- it's a term) would have kicked off substantially earlier maybe not giving us time for the earth to have been created, since the sun-making particles would've been too far off to collect and create the sun.
Instead we have a working universe full of activity- creation and collapse of stars etc.
All far-fetched hypothetical speculation but still . .
Don't give it much thought.
Now steelcurtain- yes I agree. We could be intelligent beings or we could be slimy octopuses on land. We could also have the earth never existing. But reality (or our version of reality) is that finally we are beings with 2 hands and 2 legs which are intelligent enough to make speculate what is beyond our telescopes view of the universe
Aoi Magi that's saying all theists are ignorant of science and don't want to learn about the universe. I've been interested in the origin of the universe and theories on how it'll end. You may find it disrespectful of theists to attribute it to a creator but I'm not going to apologize for it. Who is it disrespectful to anyway? The big bang? Like it has feelings
I didn't even mention a "sky daddy." I kept this strictly deistic
(January 13, 2015 at 2:15 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: Why I don't believe is because when I look at the universe, I not only am awed by it, I also wish to know and understand it. So I cannot just give credit to a magic sky daddy without proof and call it quits.
When I look at this watery planet, when I look at the creatures on this piece of rock, I see the beautiful product of many accidents which could not have been preplanned or designed. There are too many flaws in our "design" to think we are anything but accidents. And I am not too inclined to believe that a dumb designer triggered a series of accidents leading to our design,
To each their own I guess.
Also I didn't get your painter analogy. Do YOU know who the painter is? I'm acknowledging a painter did it. Are you saying you believe it was a series of accidents when paint just flew due to an explosion and accidentally created a beautiful painting
This was only meant for Aoi magi to point out the fault in his analogy not for anyone else. Just a disclaimer
