RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 14, 2015 at 10:09 am
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2015 at 10:17 am by BlackMason.)
(January 13, 2015 at 11:16 am)Rhythm Wrote: As I've already mentioned, my opinion is that your inductive argument is terminally weak for the very same reasons that a deductive argument along those lines is invalid.
This continues to show that you don't understand the difference between the two forms of reasoning since you apply the same criterion for both. I rest my case here. It could also be the case that you are not putting forward what you mean in a manner that I can understand clearly.
(January 13, 2015 at 11:16 am)Rhythm Wrote: I have goals or I do not have goals
Many of my shits have come into existence
Many of my shits have since been flushed
Flushing has no purpose
Therefore I have no goals.
This is a straw man if there ever was one. I bet I don't need to tell you what a straw man is. First up your fourth premise is wrong because flushing does in fact have a purpose. We flush toilets to eradicate excrement. Well maybe in your part of the world flushing doesn't have a purpose so your premise may be right after all. But in the civilised world it does.
You would need to come up with evidence or an argument to support that extinction does have a purpose.
Another area where your straw man fails is that shitting is largely involuntary. Therefore, it is irrelevant to the whole argument in analysing whether you act with purpose or not. Purpose implies voluntary action. My extinction argument is framed in a way that the premises can be reasonably assigned to an action of nature (creation). This is linked to how I defined nature as the reason why things are.
(January 13, 2015 at 11:16 am)Rhythm Wrote: (I hope your instructor flunked you btw. If not, I'd be looking for a better instructor, or a more productive way to spend a year of my life)
I'm not sure why you found it necessary to include this. If it makes you feel better I did struggle at first. The exercises were boring writing exercise. The stuff you hear on youtube debates only came 7 chapters in. That was fun but not the reason I too the course. I did it to improve my problem solving skills. Anyway I ended up maintaining a B average. Still not an A but this was just a voluntary thing. I did not need this for degree purposes.
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