Detecting design or intent in nature

[bennyboy]

Your faith that said evolutionary system did not need an intellect is not sufficient.

I don't need faith, because I don't normally make assertions about why reality is what it is. That's what you do. Generally, I take what is observable at face value. If more features become observable, then my view of something changes.

Evolution is a reality. The degree and mechanism of specific kinds of evolution (like genetic evolution) can be debated. But the fundamental principle of evolution isn't really debatable: stuff happens, and some of it causes a state of organisation that persists longer than other states. Over time, this statistical reality leads to the existence of more complex forms.

Evolutionary systems come into existence today. All those evolutionary systems which come into existence today require intellects. Can you give an example of an evolutionary system which came into existence while humans were around to observe it which did not require an intellect?

Ahhhh, this is black and white marbles again. You are smart enough to get the problem with your logic, but you do not wish to. The things you are using as evidence are not proper evidence for your proposition. Instead, you have a pretty obvious false syllogism.

"People make objects, therefore all objects were made by people" doesn't work. Nor does "Intellectual beings make objects, therefore all objects were made by intellectual beings." It doesn't mean that your conclusion is wrong-- maybe there IS a God guiding evolution. Unfortunately, however, it does mean that the evidence you are providing (and asking for) cannot logically lead to an understanding of whether anything in nature (outside what we've created) is rooted in intellect or deliberate design.

In short, you're doing it wrong.