Damn, I JUST finished typing a reply to the years-old Prop 8 thread:
BUMP
The decision is great:
"Marriage in the United States has always been a civil matter. Civil authorities may permit religious leaders to solemnize marriages but not to determine who may enter or leave a civil marriage. Religious leaders may determine independently whether to recognize a civil marriage or divorce but that recognition or lack thereof has no effect on the relationship under state law."
and also:
"Proposition 8 fails to advance any rational basis in singling out gay men and lesbians for denial of a marriage license.
Indeed, the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more than enshrine in the California Constitution the notion that opposite-sex couples are superior to same-sex couples. Because California has no interest in discriminating against gay men and lesbians, and because Proposition 8 prevents California from fulfilling its constitutional obligation to provide marriages on an equal basis, the court concludes that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional."
This kind of thing gves me hope that the legislative process in places like California isn't entirely broken, and that rationality sometimes does win. Think of all the money wasted by the Mormons promoting Prop 8. Now imagine they appeal this decision and it goes up to the SCOTUS and is struck down federally, in essence legalizing gay marriage nation-wide.
BUMP
The decision is great:
"Marriage in the United States has always been a civil matter. Civil authorities may permit religious leaders to solemnize marriages but not to determine who may enter or leave a civil marriage. Religious leaders may determine independently whether to recognize a civil marriage or divorce but that recognition or lack thereof has no effect on the relationship under state law."
and also:
"Proposition 8 fails to advance any rational basis in singling out gay men and lesbians for denial of a marriage license.
Indeed, the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more than enshrine in the California Constitution the notion that opposite-sex couples are superior to same-sex couples. Because California has no interest in discriminating against gay men and lesbians, and because Proposition 8 prevents California from fulfilling its constitutional obligation to provide marriages on an equal basis, the court concludes that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional."
This kind of thing gves me hope that the legislative process in places like California isn't entirely broken, and that rationality sometimes does win. Think of all the money wasted by the Mormons promoting Prop 8. Now imagine they appeal this decision and it goes up to the SCOTUS and is struck down federally, in essence legalizing gay marriage nation-wide.
- Meatball
