(January 17, 2015 at 3:41 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(January 17, 2015 at 3:13 pm)Heywood Wrote: Yes gravity is a requirement for stars. But stars are not a requirement for evolution. The required elements of evolution are:Here's what you're doing with chemistry---see if you can follow why it appears to all of us to only evidence the supremacy of one thing (hint: the opposite of divine intellect).
replication
heritable traits
change
selection
When do you ever see these elements or pre-requisites come together without intellects? I suppose you could ask when do you ever see these elements or pre-requisites come together without stars. Well there is nothing in principle to prevent an intellect from going to a place in the universe devoid of stars and putting these elements together.
When have you seen dirt and sand piled atop of each other to form a peak---without intellect? Like sand castles, mountains must be intelligently designed. We have seen lakes and rivers built by intellects---hence all rivers and lakes were carved by hands attached to an intellect. Same with shelter. Humans build houses, so what are we to think of caves? Intelligently designed.
So. Fugging. Stupid.
All those things you describe, peaks, lakes, rivers, etc.....We've observed those form without intellects. The proposition that all peaks are formed by intellects is clearly false. What we haven't observed is an evolutionary system form without an intellect. If you ever see an evolutionary system form without an intellect, please let me know. Until someone does, why should I consider the proposition, "All evolutionary systems need intellects" to be false? Cause its a tenant of your faith? Sorry....not a good enough reason. Show me an observation.